A pre-1936 Kaywoodie ?

hawke · Feb 13, 2014

Ive just purchased my first old Kaywoodie Yello Bole. Here's the KBB Logo on it.

From "Collector Guide to Kaywoodie":

Some of the pre-1936 Kaywoodies were stamped (on the shank) with a cloverleaf around KBB.

Yello Bole was a low end version of Kaywoodie right? Would this dating be a correct assumption?
The pipe looks like its gotten pretty hot and the stem logo has been damaged. There appears to be a red dot as well. Here's the ebay link for more pictures.
Probably not a good smoker, and I may be experiencing that PAD Ive heard of, Hahaha.

gmwolford · Feb 13, 2014

This is a shank logo:

sablebrush52 · Feb 13, 2014

Yss, it's pre-1936, More likely around 1932. I'm a little rusty on the exact year, whether it was 1932 0r 1933 when Kaywoodie moved into its new factory, but at that time the KBB logo stamp was dropped from Kaywoodie and Yello-Bole.

hawke · Feb 14, 2014

Sounds interesting sablebrush52, since my Father was born in 1933. On further looking found this from the same Collector Guide to Kaywoodie Pipes

hawke · Feb 14, 2014

Sounds interesting sablebrush52, since my Father was born in 1933.

QUOTE:

(According to a 1948 Yello-Bolecatalog, "Yello-Boles have been on the market since 1933. About 25 millions of these

pipes have been sold")
and
The pre-Kaywoodie KB&B pipes were marked on the shank with a cloverleaf around

KB&B. Some early Kaywoodies had this same marking on the shank, but the practice

was dropped sometime prior to 1936. Yello-Boles also had KBB in the leaf on the

shanks, but did not have the ampersand found on Kaywoodies.
From the same Collector Guide to Kaywoodie Pipes

sablebrush52 · Feb 14, 2014

It's unfortunate that the Kaywoodie Compendium, hosted on the Grey Fox site, was taken down in 2012. Besides a complete listing of all models and an explanation of the numbering, it featured images of most of the Kaywoodie line and the years of manufacture for each model, in addition it had Moore's essay on the history of Kaywoodie, which is the best of the lot. For Kaywoodie collectors, it's the equivalent of the destruction of the library at Alexandria. Nothing currently on the web has the same level of information.

ssjones · Feb 14, 2014

I've read that about the Grayfox site, a pity.
Lets see the rest of the pipe hawke!

hawke · Feb 14, 2014

Sure ssjones,

When it arrives Ill take some better ones. For now the top post has an ebay link of the whole pipe. It a sad looking stem for sure. And its so dark, did it get really hot and turn that black from heat maybe? Ive seen burn "spots" on pipes from getting too hot, if one actually blacked the whole bowl from such heat, what does it do to the pipe overall? Taste affected any?

ssjones · Feb 14, 2014

I just checked the ebay pix, missed that link earlier. Most of that black tar build-up on the bowl top will come off. You'll want to do a full restore, which includes cake removal and the salt/alcohol soak. That is your best bet to ensure it has no ghosts. The stem really doesnt look bad at all. Overall, a pretty srraight forward restoration job.

plateauguy · Feb 14, 2014

Great find!
The first thing I do when I get an estate is spray the whole thing down with a 50/50 mix of Simple Green and water. Take an old tooth brush and lightly scrub it, rinse and let it sit overnight. You'll be able to see what you're dealing with if the initial grime is off.

ejames · Feb 14, 2014

Lots of info here one Kaywoodies and KBB-- http://kaywoodie.myfreeforum.org/index.php?sid=d8a3ebbd5a002a7d2d168b570cfb864b

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