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Bassman65

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Hey all, with the crazy price of Beattie Jet Lighters, has anyone tried the Zorro version?

With Beattie lighters going for over $200 now, for those of us who are late to the Beattie party, was wondering if this option was an ok. segue into that style of lighter.
 

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Bassman65

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Finally received it. Works really well like the Beattie lighters I’ve seen online. Not bad for $18 Canadian. It will definitely be a learning curve in using it to light my pipes.

Only bad thing about it is the colour. It’s like a blue metallic. That or pick were the only options left. Maybe I can put some sort of skin / wrap around it. Any suggestions?

Unfortunately, it didn’t come with a probe or anything to clean the nozzle. Any advice on what any of you guys use when needed if you don’t have one?

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Chasing Embers

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Ah well. I guess for $12 US. What can I expect lol. Nothing available on eBay for anything resembling a reasonable price.

Maybe if I just keep the exterior of the nozzle clean it will help.
Just so you know, I've been using my Beattie for five years as my regular lighter and have never needed to use the jet probe.
 
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Joe H

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I have an old Beatie from the late '40s I found in my dad's stuff after he passed away. To clean the nozzle I use a short bit of stiff monofilament fishing line. I couldn't tell you what pound test I use as I just snip an inch or so off whatever spool is handy. It gets in the nozzle hole just fine and I suspect it isn't causing any wear on the brass tip since it's just stiff plastic. Anyway, I just thought I'd share my work-around.

Thanks for the post, I had no idea Beatie clone were being made.

PS. In addition to not finding the nozzle probe, I never found the outer case for dad's Beatie, so I hammered out an end-cap out of a chunk of copper pipe. It's not pretty but it works.
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Chasing Embers

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I have an old Beatie from the late '40s I found in my dad's stuff after he passed away. To clean the nozzle I use a short bit of stiff monofilament fishing line. I couldn't tell you what pound test I use as I just snip an inch or so off whatever spool is handy. It gets in the nozzle hole just fine and I suspect it isn't causing any wear on the brass tip since it's just stiff plastic. Anyway, I just thought I'd share my work-around.

Thanks for the post, I had no idea Beatie clone were being made.

PS. In addition to not finding the nozzle probe, I never found the outer case for dad's Beatie, so I hammered out an end-cap out of a chunk of copper pipe. It's not pretty but it works.
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You can clean up the case with fine scotch brite pads if you'd like. I love Beatties.
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How did you date yours? I've never heard of any prior to the '50s.
 
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Joe H

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Apologies to @Bassman65 for veering slightly off course here; the modern clone is an interesting option!

Regarding the date, I found the lighter in a box with stuff from the 40s, including an old condenser aluminum pipe that was only made briefly in the late 40s. Both the pipe and this lighter were engraved with my dad’s signature. I know dad worked in a jewelry store after WW2 and I just assumed he did the engravings at that time. I have seen some patent info on-line that leads me to believe dad’s Beattie is a revised version of the original patent, allowing the lighter to be filled by removing a screw at the bottom, rather than slipping off the case. I’ll attach a picture below of what I believe dad’s lighter case would have looked like.

Another interesting fact, dad’s Beattie will not take Zippo flints. It requires a thicker flint. I buy torch flints at the hardware store and put them in a drill and spin them against sandpaper until they fit in the flint tube. It does make a lot of sparks!

I could be wrong about the dates if Dad had someone engrave the pipe and lighter using his signature as a pattern. If this was the case, the engravings could have been done pretty much anytime. But dad was a pretty frugal guy and I find it hard to believe he’d pay someone to do something he could have done himself. We didn’t have any metal engraving stuff at the house when I grew up, but lots of wood carving and gun stock tools, so I’m pretty sure dad owned the lighter before he moved to Alaska in the late 40s.

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Chasing Embers

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Nov 12, 2014
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Apologies to @Bassman65 for veering slightly off course here; the modern clone is an interesting option!

Regarding the date, I found the lighter in a box with stuff from the 40s, including an old condenser aluminum pipe that was only made briefly in the late 40s. Both the pipe and this lighter were engraved with my dad’s signature. I know dad worked in a jewelry store after WW2 and I just assumed he did the engravings at that time. I have seen some patent info on-line that leads me to believe dad’s Beattie is a revised version of the original patent, allowing the lighter to be filled by removing a screw at the bottom, rather than slipping off the case. I’ll attach a picture below of what I believe dad’s lighter case would have looked like.

Another interesting fact, dad’s Beattie will not take Zippo flints. It requires a thicker flint. I buy torch flints at the hardware store and put them in a drill and spin them against sandpaper until they fit in the flint tube. It does make a lot of sparks!

I could be wrong about the dates if Dad had someone engrave the pipe and lighter using his signature as a pattern. If this was the case, the engravings could have been done pretty much anytime. But dad was a pretty frugal guy and I find it hard to believe he’d pay someone to do something he could have done himself. We didn’t have any metal engraving stuff at the house when I grew up, but lots of wood carving and gun stock tools, so I’m pretty sure dad owned the lighter before he moved to Alaska in the late 40s.

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I really like that design. I got mine complete NOS a few years ago before they were suddenly a gold mine. I'm considering having an arabesque engraving done on the case but I'm really liking the idea of a fill screw.
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I have an old Beatie from the late '40s I found in my dad's stuff after he passed away. To clean the nozzle I use a short bit of stiff monofilament fishing line. I couldn't tell you what pound test I use as I just snip an inch or so off whatever spool is handy. It gets in the nozzle hole just fine and I suspect it isn't causing any wear on the brass tip since it's just stiff plastic. Anyway, I just thought I'd share my work-around.

Thanks for the post, I had no idea Beatie clone were being made.

PS. In addition to not finding the nozzle probe, I never found the outer case for dad's Beatie, so I hammered out an end-cap out of a chunk of copper pipe. It's not pretty but it works.
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I like that monofilament idea. One thing I have tons of is fishing line.
 

Joe H

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I fixed up one old lighter that was a marketing give-away; inexpensive and probably not meant to last forever. It had a similar bottom to your Zorro. The only way I could see to replace the wick was to use my thinnest needle nose pliers and pull the wadding out of the fill hole. Then the new wick was pushed in from the top and pulled in from the fill hole with the pliers. Finally, the wadding was stuffed back in through the fill hole. It was a pain but the wick will probably last longer than the lighter.
 
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