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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
5,291
15,158
Humansville Missouri
That Wellington came in about five sizes, and almost endless qualities or grades.

My first high quality pipe was this Wellington, likely made in the forties or fifties.

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It was indeed the Universal Pipe.

But you really only need one, you know?
 

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Coreios

Lifer
Sep 23, 2022
1,637
2,727
42
United States Of America
That Wellington came in about five sizes, and almost endless qualities or grades.

My first high quality pipe was this Wellington, likely made in the forties or fifties.

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It was indeed the Universal Pipe.

But you really only need one, you know?
I posted a thread about a Wellington I just purchased. Didn't get a lot back. Do you know the date and worth of this pipe? You to be very knowledgeable on these.s-l400.jpg
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
5,291
15,158
Humansville Missouri
I posted a thread about a Wellington I just purchased. Didn't get a lot back. Do you know the date and worth of this pipe? You to be very knowledgeable on these.View attachment 193208
The Wellington was made by WDC from the very early 1900s until the factory closed in 1976 and then afterwards by other makers under contract.

Generally speaking the older the better finished, but it was the same for about eighty years. Nobody collects them I know of. Year doesn’t matter.

A Wellington isn’t a total copy of a Peterson. It’s less bent. The stem is longer. It has a flange near the mortise. There’s a condensation chamber in the front of the tenon. The water trap is straight down. The cap is a stamping, sterling silver for high grades, nickel and nickel plated and finally “German Silver” (cupronickel) at the end of production. It’s basically a Peterson System pipe simplified for mass production to sell by the millions for fifty cents and up.

There were half Bakelite Wellingtons, super high grade Wellingtons, carved Wellingtons, sand blasted Wellingtons, Wellingtons out the azz.:)

That’s a good example of the first, and best mass produced factory pipe ever made.

The lifetime guarantee is no good now, but it should last several more lifetimes.
 

Coreios

Lifer
Sep 23, 2022
1,637
2,727
42
United States Of America
The Wellington was made by WDC from the very early 1900s until the factory closed in 1976 and then afterwards by other makers under contract.

Generally speaking the older the better finished, but it was the same for about eighty years. Nobody collects them I know of. Year doesn’t matter.

A Wellington isn’t a total copy of a Peterson. It’s less bent. The stem is longer. It has a flange near the mortise. There’s a condensation chamber in the front of the tenon. The water trap is straight down. The cap is a stamping, sterling silver for high grades, nickel and nickel plated and finally “German Silver” (cupronickel) at the end of production. It’s basically a Peterson System pipe simplified for mass production to sell by the millions for fifty cents and up.

There were half Bakelite Wellingtons, super high grade Wellingtons, carved Wellingtons, sand blasted Wellingtons, Wellingtons out the azz.:)

That’s a good example of the first, and best mass produced factory pipe ever made.

The lifetime guarantee is no good now, but it should last several more lifetimes.
Thank you! Very educational.
 

FurCoat

Lifer
Sep 21, 2020
10,425
97,984
North Carolina
I posted a thread about a Wellington I just purchased. Didn't get a lot back. Do you know the date and worth of this pipe? You to be very knowledgeable on these.View attachment 193208
In my experience, they are not worth a whole lot of money. I have the two pictured above and a Wellington and all together I'm in about a hundred bucks. The value to me is in preserving a piece of American history.20210420_134235.jpg
 

Coreios

Lifer
Sep 23, 2022
1,637
2,727
42
United States Of America
The Wellington was made by WDC from the very early 1900s until the factory closed in 1976 and then afterwards by other makers under contract.

Generally speaking the older the better finished, but it was the same for about eighty years. Nobody collects them I know of. Year doesn’t matter.

A Wellington isn’t a total copy of a Peterson. It’s less bent. The stem is longer. It has a flange near the mortise. There’s a condensation chamber in the front of the tenon. The water trap is straight down. The cap is a stamping, sterling silver for high grades, nickel and nickel plated and finally “German Silver” (cupronickel) at the end of production. It’s basically a Peterson System pipe simplified for mass production to sell by the millions for fifty cents and up.

There were half Bakelite Wellingtons, super high grade Wellingtons, carved Wellingtons, sand blasted Wellingtons, Wellingtons out the azz.:)

That’s a good example of the first, and best mass produced factory pipe ever made.

The lifetime guarantee is no good now, but it should last several more lifetimes.

In my experience, they are not worth a whole lot of money. I have the two pictured above and a Wellington and all together I'm in about a hundred bucks. The value to me is in preserving a piece of American history.View attachment 193247
I paid 27. I wasn't wanting to sell it or anything just wondered how well I did. Wasn't sure if it was 50 and I did great or 200. Like you though I like the history it was never about the money, more about how well I did. I do wish someone could date it for me. By what he said I'm guessing close to when they closed in the 70s. Your's is really nice by the way! Love that bowl!
 
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kcghost

Lifer
May 6, 2011
15,138
25,740
78
Olathe, Kansas
I think you should get a standard-length pipe stem for it. You will find the stem that is currently on it very unwieldy in actual practice.
 

FurCoat

Lifer
Sep 21, 2020
10,425
97,984
North Carolina
I paid 27. I wasn't wanting to sell it or anything just wondered how well I did. Wasn't sure if it was 50 and I did great or 200. Like you though I like the history it was never about the money, more about how well I did. I do wish someone could date it for me. By what he said I'm guessing close to when they closed in the 70s. Your's is really nice by the way! Love that bowl!
You did good. I love my old American codger pipes and WDC is among the finest.
 
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