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gcb0

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Jan 10, 2015
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I was just sold on the article about pipes with wider airflow and now i want a pipe with four millimeter channel (5/32" for the metric impaired)
But i'm failing miserably on finding any. Do i have to open them myself/find a pipe maker?
or in this era of post industrial consumerism is there at least one maker doing so already for less than an arm and a leg? is there any nomenclature i can use to search for them?
And lastly, wanting to have the cake and smoke it too, is there any way to mix a wider airflow and european (charcoal) filter somehow? :)

 

nachman

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jun 27, 2013
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I find you are more likely to find unrestricted draw and larger drilling in Danish pipes. You might look at those.

 

phil67

Lifer
Dec 14, 2013
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You wish to have a wider airflow and then constrict that airflow with a filter?

Some makers of handmade pipes go to great lengths to make sure that the opening by the button area is quite wide, but they certainly don't intend, nor do they design said pipes to be be used with a filter! Sorry, but I'm lost?

 

May 31, 2012
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Russ Cook usually goes with a larger drilling,

http://www.pipesandcigars.com/pipes/76924/russ-cook-pipes/#p-121865
You could write him and ask him about it,

http://www.pipesbyrusscook.com/

and maybe buy one of his pipes!
I have one by him,

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and it has a wide open airway,

I actually had to adjust to it,

but once I did,

I found it to be wonderful for certain blends.

:puffy:

 

gcb0

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Jan 10, 2015
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hum. so it seems it's either make myself or find a pipe maker...
those pipes look awesome misterlowercase, but i'm not currently in a phase of my life that i can smoke out of a work of art, unfortunately....

my "expensive" pipes are under $100 :( i'm a cheap bastard. sigh. but as soon as i am i will call russ and get something like this

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about using it with a filter... c'mon, a filter is not such a blocker. if you doubt, get a large straw (those they use for bobo tapioca drinks :) and put a filter there and see how you can breath trhu it. i can guarantee you will breath just fine for a long time. Then do the same with a 2mm straw without a filter. you will be gasping for air in no time.
I think i will try to get an "amazon.com briar" pipe and experiment with a 3mm or 4mm tap to see how it goes. And if it really is that huge difference the article made me believe. i will be back with results.
thanks for the input everyone!

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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Some of the machine pipes are more open than others by design. I find my several BC pipes open, to wide open,

but other French pipes like Villiard and Ropp more restricted. You can get a filter pipe and smoke it without the

filter, but wanting both, I think you will have to try around quite a bit, and maybe try drilling out an inexpensive

pipe or two to see if you can get what you want.

 

buroak

Lifer
Jul 29, 2014
2,145
1,056
NW Missouri
You might be able to find a DeJarnett pipe in the estate market. He is now deceased but typically made pipes with large bore airways, up to 3/16". In my experience you can get one for about $60.

 

buroak

Lifer
Jul 29, 2014
2,145
1,056
NW Missouri
Here is a link to an old thread about DeJarnett. http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dejarnett-pipes#post-208919

 

nurseman

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 8, 2014
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There are plenty of pipes drilled out to 4mm - and if not it is an easy modification if it is a straight shanked pipe . I drilled out my french pipes ( Wessex , Chacom) to 5/32 and now I am happy with them .

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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I agree with the artisan pipes. My Weavers have an amazingly open draw, but, my Danish made "Johs" and "Neerup" pipes, far less expensive pipes do have a very good open draw as well. If you care to step into the estate market, Danish made Ben Wades, though on the larger side, have a more open draw, and can be had for a lot less than an artisan pipe.

 

rcstan

Lifer
Mar 7, 2012
1,466
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Sunset Beach NC
On most pipes, you can open the shank airway using a 4mm bit with the tip blunted to avoid damaging the chamber if you go too far too fast. This will solve half your problem.

IMO ( and I have never made a pipe but restored a few thousand of them, and tweaked a few of my own ), the key is the stem airway and the slot......which take a bit more modification than merely running a bit from one end to the other.....
If you're wanting something straight out of the box ( minus the filter part ), consider a PS Studio. Most have what I call "funnel" stems where basically the stem airway and the slot are one, for all intents and purposes. Sergey Demin does this too, but the price is a bit higher.

 

mcitinner1

Lifer
Apr 5, 2014
4,043
25
Missouri
Gcb0....I use filters more often than not and have always realized they don't restrict the airflow of a pipe. I never smoke more than two bowls thru a filter. It's not that hard to search and find 9mm filtered pipes.(My preference). Cobs use 6mm filters and are good smokers too. Brighams use a unique filter of their own. It's not a big issue to smoke ANY pipe without a filter, except some will gurgle a little, so you just run a pipe cleaner down it during the smoke. Try not to over-think piping and just keep smoking and experimenting till you figure out what you like most. It will take more than a year most likely, even if you smoke a lot. 8)
Edit...If you post here you will eventually be reminded to use the shift key where appropriate. Use the title of a new thread like the title of a book. :)

 

ejames

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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On most pipes, you can open the shank airway using a 4mm bit with the tip blunted to avoid damaging the chamber if you go too far too fast. This will solve half your problem.

IMO ( and I have never made a pipe but restored a few thousand of them, and tweaked a few of my own ), the key is the stem airway and the slot......which take a bit more modification than merely running a bit from one end to the other.....
I agree. I get a lot of different brands of pipes in here--English,French,Italian,Danish and American. Most are drilled pretty close to 4MM or more in the shank, but the stems are many times drilled to 1/8" (or less) and have a very shallow funnel. Opening the shank and not the stem ain't-IMO- going to do much.
Want a cheap pipe with a wide open draw and a (6MM) filter? Try a new Grabow with an ABS (black) stem. The acrylic stemmed Grabows are not as open as the ABS.

 

smokershaven

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Jul 24, 2013
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Columbus, Ohio USA
I cannot speak for all individual makers, but the ones I have worked with all open the slot properly to the airway at either 5/32 or 9/64. If the transition from slot to airway is done correctly, a 9/64 airway is very open and can be better than an improperly done 5/32 airway.

 

northernneil

Lifer
Jun 1, 2013
1,390
4
Look into Stanwell. I know their unfiltered pipes are drilled wider than most. Can't speak for their filtered pipes, but would be worth looking into.

 

literaryworkshop

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 10, 2014
127
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Mobile, AL
Another option is to find a pipemaker who's just starting off and is willing to sell a pipe somewhat cheaply. There are plenty of aspiring pipemakers out there, and one of them just might cut you a deal.

 

smokertruck

Can't Leave
Aug 1, 2013
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i have 8 rhodesian pipes by boswell & son - - nice open draws especially the acrylics - more than the volcanite stems which still are open- i have one volcanite & rest acrylic.-

quite reasonable prices around 200 & some are in the range of 100
check out their gallery shots - very beautiful work & all of my pipes required NO breakin period - dont know how they do it - right out of the box excellent flavour. all my other pipes required various breakin periods.
they sell weekly on thursdays - get in there early 9.30 to 9.45 they go fast - 1/2 hr most are gone. even the higher priced -
well worth the look

 

brass

Lifer
Jun 4, 2014
1,840
11
United States
Cheap? Open draft? Buster and cobguy advice is right on. Go cobs. My cobs smoke as good as any of my briars and better than most. Russ Ouellette told me the open draft is the primary reason MMs cobs smoke so well. Also the absorbent material cleans the smoke.

 
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