What Shape is this Charatan?

[starcastle33]

Hello all, I came to this site because it seemed to have the most information about Charatan pipes. I have a cup & saucer Charatan and this pipe as well listed on eBay, and even though i can't change the title because it has bids on it, I still wanted to know what shape this is because I couldn't find a designation for it anywhere. Hope someone can help.

Kindest regard,

Edit: you cannot post your ebay listing, I deleted that and added a picture of the pipe.

 

[Chasing Embers]

As listed, it is indeed a mohawk. I've only seen a couple.

 

[anthonyrosenthal74]

I call it a Nope. :D

 

[ashdigger]

It called "can't link YOUR eBay sales"

 

[oldgeezersmoker]

Not sure what Charatan's ever called it, but collectors had certainly adopted the term Mohawk as long ago as I can recall, which goes back to around 1980. A free hand, never had a shape number or appeared in any shape chart or advertising literature that I ever saw. Slight variations are out there, yours is what the shape ought to look like. Not sure how rare the shape was in absolute terms, been a long time since I have seen one.

 

[wyfbane]

Good Call Ash...

 

[kenbarnes]

Barry Jones made the first 'cup and saucer' freehand in 1959. He told me that Mr Charatan loved the shape. Barry was working in the sand papering dept at the time with Joan Nicholson, who was his teacher in sand papering. He made his first one in his lunch hour when he saw a giant bent bowl(shape 44) with a flaw in it. Mr Charatan used to put any bowls with flaws on them in a large box under his bench and when there was a scarcity of briar, he would 'rework' these bowls. The flaw was towards the bottom of the front part of the bowl and he cut into it with the coarse sandpaper wheel and the flaw disappeared. He then continued this 'cut in' around the bowl and the 'cup and saucer' appeared. I think that this beautiful Selected Freehand with square shank was made by Joan who loved doing square shanked variations. There is no name for these shapes although Barry did call the first one he made "Cup and Saucer". I have watched Joan making this syle of 'Mohawk?' in the mid seventies when she spent three months training me up in the art of sandpapering. I love this shape!

 

[kenbarnes]

This is an early piece. The reverse side of the shank has no stamp marks ie handmade city of London etc. I think that this may be a 1960s pipe.

 

[ssjones]

Edited to remove the link.
I'd rethink who is restoring your pipes - they are ruining the stem/shank junction.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Great info, though. I'd love to see photos of the other side as well as from the top.