What Do You Have To Say About Deer Tongue?

[swilly]

For the longest time I was confused about what "deer tongue" was. I thought that actual deer tongue was being put into tobacco. I went online and found that "deer tongue" is actually a chemical called Coumarin, and it was actually banned as a food additive in several countries since the mid-20th century (FDA banned it in the 1954). Evidently this chemical is an "immediate precursor" to rat poison.
Looking at the the chemical structure, the only difference is where there is an additional hydroxide group.
Deer Tongue:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coumarin
Rat Poison

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-hydroxycoumarins
Sorry to point this out, but this is what I discovered, but thankfully, Coumarin is harmless in low concentrations.
That said, is this stuff tasty? I read that it's kind of a substitute for vanilla flavouring.
-Swilly

 

[brewshooter]

Well, to be a little clearer, deer tonque isn't just a nice name for a chemical, it's an actual plant. You might note from that Wikipedia entry that the chemical component is also common in tonka bean...watch out you 1792 Flake lovers!!!!
Oh wait, that's me!!!!

 

[pstlpkr]

It's not something that I would recommend you go find in the forest and add to your tobacco.

Go to Google Images and search deer tongue.

There are very many plants that go by that moniker.

 

[sjpipesmoker]

and tonka bean is part of the vanilla family I believe??

 

[sjpipesmoker]

 

[crpntr1]

Mmm...lengua!!!!

 

[papipeguy]

Deer tongue has been used in tobacco for a very long time. The original Half&Half had it among many others. I smoke C&D'd Gentleman Caller quite often and I really like it. Great room note, to me. It does ghost a pipe so I dedicate one of my Stanwells to it. It is getting scarce and I understand that Craig Tarler holds as much as he can find because of it.

 

[rigmedic1]

Only thing I have tried with it is C&D Crooner. Yuck. It has a kinda minty taste, reminds me of menthol cigarettes. Did not care for it, and cannot give the stuff away.

 

[cortezattic]

IMHO most blenders put too much deertongue in the blend. There are a couple of good blends that exercise some restraint,

and in these it really shines: H&H's Capitol Stairs and 4noggin's MOJO
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:crazy: I don't think this means a thing in terms of being hazardous...

Evidently this chemical is an "immediate precursor" to rat poison.

Looking at the the chemical structure, the only difference is where there is an additional hydroxide group.

 

[billm67]

I smoke a blend called Belvedere from Wingenroth's Pipe shop that has Deer Tongue in it. I really like it my my wife really complains when I light it up in the house....

 

[spartan]

You can send it to me rigmedic lol It's on my TAD list.
Muahaha :twisted:

 

[sparroa]

I'd like to try deer tongue sometime but I am not interested enough to put any blends to the top of my TAD list.