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In most of the movies from the 40's, 50's and even many in the 60's, pipes were a very common sight. I don't think I can think of a film from that era set in Europe, that doesn't show pipe smoking. All the war movies show pipe smoking as do most westerns. Maybe it is a sign that men were more thinkers back then before we had social media do our thinking for us.
^ I doubt there is any anti-tobacco idea related to mass media they don't already have.
Tobacco use has been one of their rating criteria for a while now...and it seems you can't view any DVD's these days without being treated to some inane propaganda ad on the unspeakable evil of tobacco use inserted at the beginning that makes Reefer Madness seem like a sober documentary by comparison.
Tobacco use has been one of their rating criteria for a while now...and it seems you can't view any DVD's these days without being treated to some inane propaganda ad on the unspeakable evil of tobacco use inserted at the beginning that makes Reefer Madness seem like a sober documentary by comparison.
Not an old movie, but a series that PBS aired recently, called Jamestown. Mostly period correct, it's the story of the first settlement in VA. Indeed, tobacco is mentioned a bunch, and there are many scenes showing a tobacco field (the tobacco field it seems.) There is a moment where a pipe is shown, but it is never fired up. And no one is seen smoking anything. Ever.
I fear that Brian's observation becomes a reality.
I fear that Brian's observation becomes a reality.
I am working my way through the Basil Rathbone Sherlock Holmes movies and I enjoy smoking a pipe for the hour long movies. There is at least one scene with pipe smoking and sometimes they even discuss blends in there. It seems like the classic color movies feature cigarette smoking and the classic black and white shows favor pipe smoking. Either way, both enjoyable and entertaining!
All I've got to say is thank goodness there are folks to save us from ourselves. I've learned I can smoke weed and drink like a fish and that's ok but if I eat stake and smoke I'm doomed. Thank you, health police. I still love to see Bogart light up a smoke to help him make a point or Homes use his pipe to help clear his head.
I haven't seen it in -forever-, but doesn't the older fellow (the sergeant?) in the old black-&-white version of All Quiet on the Western Front smoke a pipe in many scenes?
Sometimes, I can't tell whether you are all kidding or just being full of shit. Ha ha. But, one of the things my wife and I started noticing in almost all of the new movies and series that my wife and I watch is that that all current movies and series are full of people smoking pipes. Just look at all of the threads we have had where we list tons of recent movies with guys smoking pipes in them.
Yeh, and how many times is Bing Crosby actually shown in a movies actually smoking? Look at High Society (1956), it is full of pipes and cigarettes... well, they are all lighting them, packing them, or crushing them out, but not once in that entire movies was someone actually smoking. Bing is rarely ever shown actually smoking. He fiddles with his pipe more than he is ever shown ever smoking it.
But, new movies seem to all have someone smoking pipes in them, at least briefly. Maybe you guys just watch the wrong movies, ha ha. But, I put today down as the golden era. Maybe not for cigarettes, but I see pipes everywhere. I guess it just depends on where you look or how far your head is in the sand, ha ha.
Yeh, and how many times is Bing Crosby actually shown in a movies actually smoking? Look at High Society (1956), it is full of pipes and cigarettes... well, they are all lighting them, packing them, or crushing them out, but not once in that entire movies was someone actually smoking. Bing is rarely ever shown actually smoking. He fiddles with his pipe more than he is ever shown ever smoking it.
But, new movies seem to all have someone smoking pipes in them, at least briefly. Maybe you guys just watch the wrong movies, ha ha. But, I put today down as the golden era. Maybe not for cigarettes, but I see pipes everywhere. I guess it just depends on where you look or how far your head is in the sand, ha ha.
I don't think anyone was saying that there is never pipe smoking depicted in any new or newer movies and shows. Just that tobacco use is now a rating criteria and that the DVD's contain propaganda ads.
Personally, I don't watch TV...so I wouldn't know about the current shows. But I'm thinking that the one's you're referring to are most likely period pieces...it's a little hard for me to imagine a bunch of new shows set in current day all with pipe smoking (unless it's not tobacco).
As for movies, I do watch some current movies (usually not the big "blockbusters" which seem to be 90% superhero stuff...YAWN). But I don't recall seeing any pipe smoking depicted in any recent movie I've seen unless it may have been a period piece.
No, actually, if you look at those lists of movies in other threads, it is new movies about today. Will Ferrell has several indi movies with pipes, and Tom Hank’s has a few. Granted, these aren’t scenes with guys just smoking, nor are the scenes very long, but they are there. Granted, there is less cigarette smoking in movies, but since Big Tobacco has gotten out of the “placed product” business in movies and there are way less cigarette smokers in society, that’s not unusual to me.
I just think it’s a far cry from using media as a “proof of world view”. Sometimes when you see a guy pissing in the street, it doesn’t necessarily mean anything more than one guy pissed in the street.
I just think it’s a far cry from using media as a “proof of world view”. Sometimes when you see a guy pissing in the street, it doesn’t necessarily mean anything more than one guy pissed in the street.
But, I agree TMC is one of my favorite channels. I love old movies, but I also love watching any movies.
Ok, so there are some newer movies set in the modern day that contain a scene of someone smoking a pipe. That neither surprises me nor impresses any particular point on me.
I would say that's how it should be...kind of rare and not prominently depicted...because that reflects reality. Now if there were a number of movies or shows set in the modern day that prominently depicted pipe smoking (as you seemed to be saying previously) I would consider that to be ridiculous...because the real world isn't like that.
The only point I was ever really intending to make in regard to any of this is that "tobacco use" is now being used as a rating criteria...which imo is absolute horseshit. And even greater horseshit is purchasing a DVD to watch a movie and being subjected to the most asinine anti-tobacco bullshit propaganda ad at the beginning.
It's social engineering PC trash...and Hollywood does lots of that in lots of ways.
I would say that's how it should be...kind of rare and not prominently depicted...because that reflects reality. Now if there were a number of movies or shows set in the modern day that prominently depicted pipe smoking (as you seemed to be saying previously) I would consider that to be ridiculous...because the real world isn't like that.
The only point I was ever really intending to make in regard to any of this is that "tobacco use" is now being used as a rating criteria...which imo is absolute horseshit. And even greater horseshit is purchasing a DVD to watch a movie and being subjected to the most asinine anti-tobacco bullshit propaganda ad at the beginning.
It's social engineering PC trash...and Hollywood does lots of that in lots of ways.
My tv practically stays on TMC. I love the old movies during the morning and day. Noir is a personal favorite.. and I also enjoy the late night foreign films. You never know what you may see.
Surprisingly you can see a LOT of pipes on various Adult Swim shows. I used to pause the program and take a picture whenever it would happen. Family Guy would feature pipes frequently, as would shows like Robot Chicken and Moral Orel.
Surprisingly you can see a LOT of pipes on various Adult Swim shows. I used to pause the program and take a picture whenever it would happen. Family Guy would feature pipes frequently, as would shows like Robot Chicken and Moral Orel.
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