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Lifer
Oct 13, 2015
2,747
16,594
UK
Here's an interesting couple of photos I came across. Taken during the time of the First World War & showing a German tobacconist shop being smashed up & ransacked by a large crowd of cockneys. Schonfelds on Crisp Street, Poplar (East London). Apparently the proprietor & his assistants were flung out into the street & children were seen running out of the shop laden down with boxes of pipes, German cigars & parcels of tobacco!?With such a large crowd, it was all the police could do but watch them get on with it.
You have to remember that apart from the war raging on overseas, the east end (& many other cities) were being subjected to arial bombardment, courtesy of the Kaisers Zeppellins. This obviously resulted in unfortunate repercussions for Germans living in Britain at the time. A sad day for Mr. Schoenfeld but a happy & memorable one for the pipesmokers in the east end! Lol
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mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,211
60,649
Like tea and spices, tobacco used to be (and still is) an expensive luxury. That's why the clay pipes in pubs had small bowls. The working man had his daily bowl. Spices used to be a medium of exchange, like gold.

So this was a smash and grab, under cover of patriotism. I wouldn't apply this sentiment to the Ukrainians or any people at their best, but it was once said that patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, and that is sometimes true.
 

Donb1972

Can't Leave
Feb 9, 2022
415
1,079
Erie, PA
During WWI? They wouldn't have smashed into an English owned store. This happened because it was German, not because they wanted tobacco(at least not primarily). Such things happened to German owned businesses in the US, too.
 

mingc

Lifer
Jun 20, 2019
4,283
12,656
The Big Rock Candy Mountains
Here's an interesting couple of photos I came across. Taken during the time of the First World War & showing a German tobacconist shop being smashed up & ransacked by a large crowd of cockneys. Schonfelds on Crisp Street, Poplar (East London). Apparently the proprietor & his assistants were flung out into the street & children were seen running out of the shop laden down with boxes of pipes, German cigars & parcels of tobacco!?With such a large crowd, it was all the police could do but watch them get on with it.
You have to remember that apart from the war raging on overseas, the east end (& many other cities) were being subjected to arial bombardment, courtesy of the Kaisers Zeppellins. This obviously resulted in unfortunate repercussions for Germans living in Britain at the time. A sad day for Mr. Schoenfeld but a happy & memorable one for the pipesmokers in the east end! Lol
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Ironic, since that mob was ruled by Germans. That was about the time that the House of Windsor changed it name from Saxe-Coburg und Gotha!

NB: Edward VII was the first Saxe-Coburg und Gotha king; before his ascension to the throne in 1901, he was Prince Albert, nicknamed Bertie. Yes, that Prince Albert, the one in the can.
 
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canucklehead

Lifer
Aug 1, 2018
2,862
15,356
Alberta
Ironic, since that mob was ruled by Germans. That was about the time that the House of Windsor changed it name from Saxe-Coburg und Gotha!

NB: Edward VII was the first Saxe-Coburg und Gotha king; before his ascension to the throne in 1901, he was Prince Albert, nicknamed Bertie. Yes, that Prince Albert, the one in the can.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,951
31,787
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
Like tea and spices, tobacco used to be (and still is) an expensive luxury. That's why the clay pipes in pubs had small bowls. The working man had his daily bowl. Spices used to be a medium of exchange, like gold.

So this was a smash and grab, under cover of patriotism. I wouldn't apply this sentiment to the Ukrainians or any people at their best, but it was once said that patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, and that is sometimes true.
there are certain things i just assume about a person until they try too hard to convince me. Patriotism is one of those things. Being straight is another. Kind of too complicated to draw out that line but there is a point where i think what do you know about you that makes you think you have to work that hard to convince me.