Tobacco Beats The FDA a Little Today

[mothernaturewilleatusallforbreakfast]

I noticed this on the interwebs this afternoon. It looks like Phillip Morris will be able to change the color of a pack of cigarettes without FDA approval. It gives me a sliver of hope for what's to come for the pipe tobacco industry.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tobacco-lawsuit-ruling-idUSKCN10S1RY

 

[woodsroad]

I wonder how mush $ PM spent before winning that small victory?

 

[mso489]

This could be the big boys getting what they want and the little guys not. But any wiggle room is appreciated at this point. If we could see some consideration for small house blending workshops and for artisanal pipe carvers who do this for living, that would be commendable. If no one ever smoked a pipe again, there is the probability that it would have no net effect on public health or a negative effect.

 

[mothernaturewilleatusallforbreakfast]

I wonder how mush $ PM spent before winning that small victory?

I imagine it wasn't cheap, but for them it has to be a big victory. I've noticed how many new boxes of just Marlboro's there seem to be and if they would have had to pull the post Tobacco Control Act boxes off the shelves and submit each of them individually for approval? Man... that would have sucked for them. I'm guessing they're pleased with being able to make a florescent yellow box of Marlboro's if they so please without having to submit it to the FDA for approval. A win for tobacco over the FDA is a pretty big deal and certainly serves as a little bit of hope for the pipe tobacco industry.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Since the FDA was regulating cigs, Camel added several new flavors and packages to it's lineup. Crush is the only one I know by name, but they've always had the money to do what they've wanted. They even added the snuss stuff.

 

[pagan]

Big money will always pull ahead of the little guy, it's called Politics

 

[darwin]

"They even added the snuss stuff."
Well not exactly. About five years ago they came out with what they called Camel Snus which compared to the real Swedish snus deal is complete crap. It was a lame effort to penetrate the Swedish snus market that, whatever its financial success, was a critical disaster. Even worse, much worse, was Marlboro snus. They were not going to really put their heart into a far safer tobacco product that threatened cigarette sales and that pattern was repeated when the majors attempted to cash in on the electronic cigarette market.

 

[smokeyweb]

I think this was an important win that will save many pipe tobaccos and cigars. Blends like C&D Autumn Evening that were available pre-2007 but have changed their labels will still be considered grandfathered products.

 

[jitterbugdude]

It's not a win at all. I'm sure part of the- behind the door- deals between big tobacco and the FDA was that if big tobacco didn't interfere with the new vape/pipe tobacco regs they would be allowed some minor concessions such as changing their cigarette packaging.

 

[tmb152]

I wouldn't get too carried away with how much of a win or not this is. What it is, is an opening for leverage for lawyers to argue some things to help out the pipe tobacco industry a bit. Where any of this goes is anybody's guess.