'Tobacco And The Collector' Book. Anyone Read It?

[mawnansmiff]

I just bought the above book without knowing anything about it other than its title and that it dates from 1966.

Has anyone here read it? Is it any good or have I just poured some beer money down the toilet without allowing it to pass through my body first?



Regards,

Jay.

 

[sablebrush52]

Never hoid of it. From the cover design, it looks like it's focused on Victorian era meerschaums.

 

[mawnansmiff]

You could be right Jesse but I wonder if the pipe at top left might be a clay?

Also, as it mentions tobacco in the title I'm rather hoping it covers that too, albeit from a 1966 perspective.

Regards,

Jay.

 

[kcghost]

I have never heard of it but you already spent the money so the second part of your question is kind of moot.

 

[mawnansmiff]

I have never heard of it but you already spent the money so the second part of your question is kind of moot.

I'm like an excited child at christmas whenever I buy a book unknown to me....I just can't wait to get my hands on it.....and It might take a while as we are having postal strikes at the moment .

Regards,

Jay.

 

[sablebrush52]

You could be right Jesse but I wonder if the pipe at top left might be a clay?

Also, as it mentions tobacco in the title I'm rather hoping it covers that too, albeit from a 1966 perspective.

Regards,

Jay.

Looks like a clay.

 

[ThermionicScott]

Subscribed! I'll bet it'll be interesting in some way.

 

[vosBghos]

As I’m obsessed I’m sure I’d plow through it cover to cover in one sitting, nice find !

 

[simong]

I think I've seen that one somewhere before. If memory serves it's mainly about snuff boxes, tobacco jars & gaudy old meers.
No tobacco collectors in the 'swinging 60's' or if there were they've all forgotten about it. You had to be there, apparently.

 

[The Clay King]

Looks like a clay.

@sablebrush52 You mean there are other things to make pipes from besides clay????

 

[scloyd]

BIBLIO | Tobacco and the Collector by Scott, Amoret & Christopher | Hardcover | 1966 | Max Parrish |

Find the best prices on Tobacco and the Collector by Scott, Amoret & Christopher at BIBLIO | Hardcover | Used - Very Good+ | 1966 | Max Parrish |

www.biblio.com

Jay,
It looks like an interesting book. See the link for photos of the inside and the table of contents.

 

[mawnansmiff]

BIBLIO | Tobacco and the Collector by Scott, Amoret & Christopher | Hardcover | 1966 | Max Parrish |

Find the best prices on Tobacco and the Collector by Scott, Amoret & Christopher at BIBLIO | Hardcover | Used - Very Good+ | 1966 | Max Parrish |

www.biblio.com

Jay,
It looks like an interesting book. See the link for photos of the inside and the table of contents.

Nice one Scott, for the money I paid (£4:03 inc p+p), if it's only one day's reading I would regard it money well spent.

Regards,

Jay.

 

[mawnansmiff]

Well the book arrived yesterday morning and really looks to be interesting.

There are chapters on every conceivable aspect of smoking with an emphasis on pipe smoking.

I never knew that what I call a tamper is correctly called a 'tobacco stopper' (first dating 1664 according to the OED), that there were iron racks known as 'pipe burners' and 'pipe kilns' that smokers put their clay pipes in then placed the rack in the embers in the hearth to cleanse them of caked tobacco. I knew folk did that but never knew there were actual devices made for the purpose.

I never knew that 'tobacco tongs' existed, I knew folk would use fire tongs to lift an ember to a pipe but these were specially made for the purpose! Also, the pointy part of pretty much every pipe tool is properly called a 'pricker'.

I knew there were porcelain pipes but glass pipes? Apparently they were a thing....briefly. Regards porcelain pipes, one chap wrote in 1876 "The execrable china pipe is a mystery of the German. It has no absorption. It is a mere tobacco-still, condensing the fetid juices in its reservoir which must be frequently emptied and cleaned, or it is converted into a hubble-bubble of disgusting poison".

We have a history of tobacco and its various uses, a history of smoking, a history of briar pipes, it's all in here. There a few photos and many drawings to complement the text. Once I have new reading glasses I'll be able to enjoy it properly then I'll post more of its more interesting points.

By the way, despite being from 1966 the book is in mint condition though smells rather musty. Whatever, for the price of a pint, I'm not complaining.

Regards,

Jay.

PS: Simon, if you want to read it let me know via PM & I'll post it to you for your perusal.

 

[The Clay King]

Well the book arrived yesterday morning and really looks to be interesting.

There are chapters on every conceivable aspect of smoking with an emphasis on pipe smoking.

I never knew that what I call a tamper is correctly called a 'tobacco stopper' (first dating 1664 according to the OED), that there were iron racks known as 'pipe burners' and 'pipe kilns' that smokers put their clay pipes in then placed the rack in the embers in the hearth to cleanse them of caked tobacco. I knew folk did that but never knew there were actual devices made for the purpose.

I never knew that 'tobacco tongs' existed, I knew folk would use fire tongs to lift an ember to a pipe but these were specially made for the purpose! Also, the pointy part of pretty much every pipe tool is properly called a 'pricker'.

I knew there were porcelain pipes but glass pipes? Apparently they were a thing....briefly. Regards porcelain pipes, one chap wrote in 1876 "The execrable china pipe is a mystery of the German. It has no absorption. It is a mere tobacco-still, condensing the fetid juices in its reservoir which must be frequently emptied and cleaned, or it is converted into a hubble-bubble of disgusting poison".

We have a history of tobacco and its various uses, a history of smoking, a history of briar pipes, it's all in here. There a few photos and many drawings to complement the text. Once I have new reading glasses I'll be able to enjoy it properly then I'll post more of its more interesting points.

By the way, despite being from 1966 the book is in mint condition though smells rather musty. Whatever, for the price of a pint, I'm not complaining.

Regards,

Jay.

PS: Simon, if you want to read it let me know via PM & I'll post it to you for your perusal.

@mawnansmiff I enjoyed having my clay pipe lit from the blacksmith's forge at the Redcoats and Revolutionaries event at Cromford Mill...

 

[The Clay King]

I think I've seen that one somewhere before. If memory serves it's mainly about snuff boxes, tobacco jars & gaudy old meers.
No tobacco collectors in the 'swinging 60's' or if there were they've all forgotten about it. You had to be there, apparently.

@simong Looking forward to the Lace Wars re-enactment next weekend; going to wear my Redcoat and smoke a clay...

 

[mawnansmiff]

@mawnansmiff I enjoyed having my clay pipe lit from the blacksmith's forge at the Redcoats and Revolutionaries event at Cromford Mill...

Dan, I have fond memories of Cromford Mill from when I was at school. I last visited there back in about 1998 when I went to visit my sister at Holbrook.

You forgot to tell us who won, the Redcoats I hope.

Regards,

Jay.

 

[The Clay King]

Dan, I have fond memories of Cromford Mill from when I was at school. I last visited there back in about 1998 when I went to visit my sister at Holbrook.

You forgot to tell us who won, the Redcoats I hope.

Regards,

Jay.

@mawnansmiff Yes the Redcoats sorted out the Luddites attempting to sabotage the mill
Dad calls the blacksmith who lit my clay pipe with an ember from his forge "The pipe lighter"
Going there again next weekend; I'm going to wear my Redcoat uniform and smoke a clay!

 

[mawnansmiff]

@mawnansmiff Yes the Redcoats sorted out the Luddites attempting to sabotage the mill
Dad calls the blacksmith who lit my clay pipe with an ember from his forge "The pipe lighter"
Going there again next weekend; I'm going to wear my Redcoat uniform and smoke a clay!

Dan, I suspect you wouldn't have liked my 5th great grandfather Jesse Fletcher (1778-1860). He was a Luddite blacksmith at Pentrich and was arrested as one of the instigators of the Pentrich Revolution of 1817! He got off lightly but others were either hanged or transported!

Pentrich rising - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regards,

Jay.

 

[The Clay King]

Dan, I suspect you wouldn't have liked my 5th great grandfather Jesse Fletcher (1778-1860). He was a Luddite blacksmith at Pentrich and was arrested as one of the instigators of the Pentrich Revolution of 1817! He got off lightly but others were either hanged or transported!

Pentrich rising - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regards,

Jay.

@mawnansmiff I'll have to have a look at Pentrich one day; catch a bus from Chesterfield to Swanwick & walk to the village. I could photograph the Butterley works and the Midland Railway Centre & have a pint (and a clay if I've got some pipe baccy left) at the real ale pub in Ripley...
If he was a blacksmith I'd ask him to light my clay pipe from his forge
Dad calls the Redcoats and Revolutionaries blacksmith 'the pipe lighter'

 

[mawnansmiff]

@mawnansmiff I'll have to have a look at Pentrich one day; catch a bus from Chesterfield to Swanwick & walk to the village. I could photograph the Butterley works and the Midland Railway Centre & have a pint (and a clay if I've got some pipe baccy left) at the real ale pub in Ripley...
If he was a blacksmith I'd ask him to light my clay pipe from his forge
Dad calls the Redcoats and Revolutionaries blacksmith 'the pipe lighter'

I didn't realise the Butterley Ironworks was still there, I assumed it would have been demolished years ago.

Regards,

Jay.