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Is it true one of the White Sox players had a superb World Series performance but, nevertheless, was included in the group of players considered guilty?
 
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JimInks

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Is it true one of the White Sox players had a superb World Series performance but, nevertheless, was included in the group of players considered guilty?
If you're thinking of Joe Jackson, he was guilty. He took $5,000, and even tried to give it to the owner of the White Sox, but was told by his secretary to keep it.

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I always thought the movie and what was said about Shoeless Joe in Field of Dreams was the truth. Really interesting to read this. I own the book that Eight man out was based on but now I’m not so sure I want to read it.
 
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JimInks

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I always thought the movie and what was said about Shoeless Joe in Field of Dreams was the truth. Really interesting to read this. I own the book that Eight man out was based on but now I’m not so sure I want to read it.
I know exactly how you feel. For years, I loved the movie, believed the book, but this serves as an example of the kind of shoddy research that persists to this day. No footnotes, no listing of primary sources, and introducing a fake character in the story is a definite "no-no". Give me the truth as is available.

The same goes for the awful Ty Cobb movie and the book it was based on. Both were full of lies as later researchers have determined. Ken Burns' portrayal of Cobb in his Baseball series was seriously flawed, and went for the easy stereotype of Cobb being an evil racist. They told stories about Cobb's attitude about African-Americans that were not true. Burns went as so far to describe Cobb's violence toward a black man. This, too, was debunked as it was a white man that Cobb fought with.

Burns did not mention that Cobb came from a family of abolitionists. Neither was there any mention of Cobb supporting breaking the color barrier in baseball, and that he supported Jackie Robinson. Nor was there a mention of Cobb building a hospital where young African-Americans could be treated as well as white people. And the description of those who came to Cobb's funeral was an out and out lie.

Cobb wasn't an easy man to get along with much of the time, but he also did a lot of good for a lot of people. He just didn't talk about it. Burns went for the sensational at the sake of the truth for his own reasons. And for fans of that Baseball series who don't bother to look further, the misinformation about Cobb stands in the minds of much of the general public as the truth.

I spent over a decade writing detailed biographies of old comic book artists who I interviewed. I always used first hand sources, and my work was and is still well received to this day so you can understand my ambivalence toward those who are sloppy and deceitful in their research.
 
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