The Latest Garbage & Lies from the Surgeon General
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I'm afraid you are correct, Kevin....We are moving rapidly into the Brave New World....These lies are becoming accepted as truth because of how often they are being repeated.... :evil:
Yes, the government is adept at twisting, distorting and misrepresentation
of the facts..., so what else is new? There is a bit of hope in all of this
mess, in that the feds have learned that the public is tired of the lies, which
is currently being felt in the ranks of the Democrats. It's also quite possible
that the average guy has discovered that the boondoggle of the anti tobacco
crusaders is without credibility. Personally, I don't get it. They don't
have another source of tax revenue to replace the tobacco taxes, so why are
they trying to kill it...?
of the facts..., so what else is new? There is a bit of hope in all of this
mess, in that the feds have learned that the public is tired of the lies, which
is currently being felt in the ranks of the Democrats. It's also quite possible
that the average guy has discovered that the boondoggle of the anti tobacco
crusaders is without credibility. Personally, I don't get it. They don't
have another source of tax revenue to replace the tobacco taxes, so why are
they trying to kill it...?
I Just wonder why tobacco? Did the tobacco giants stop giving money to congress? There is so many more potentially harmful things to fight against. Just to bring up a few would be genetically engineered foods, Pollution from and endless array of things manufactures, cars, power plants. Chemicals we use daily to clean, purify are water, spray on are farms. Lets also not forget about the most harmful of all enjoyable legal
things we consume alcohol (which I am not against)but the facts are clear it is a additive killer. This list could go on and on why tobacco?
things we consume alcohol (which I am not against)but the facts are clear it is a additive killer. This list could go on and on why tobacco?
It's a case of scapegoating in my opinion . If you are a major screwup then lay blame for something on someone else. Even if it's a lie.
The numbers don't hold up well to scrutiny.
I have a theory that they work on this one thing, they can then work on the next one. Some other "luxury" that they wish to eliminate eventually. Tobacco today, women's make-up next, alcohol tomorrow?
Seriously, women's make-up... all those chemicals on their skin to be absorbed in, the rates of female cancer problems compared to a man? hrmmm.
I have a theory that they work on this one thing, they can then work on the next one. Some other "luxury" that they wish to eliminate eventually. Tobacco today, women's make-up next, alcohol tomorrow?
Seriously, women's make-up... all those chemicals on their skin to be absorbed in, the rates of female cancer problems compared to a man? hrmmm.
If the loonies believed the garbage in the 2006 S.G. report, then why won’t they believe this latest garbage?
Interesting (but NOT surprising) the current S.G. comes from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation which is an arm of Johnson & Johnson (who is in direct competition with the tobacco companies to deliver nicotine).
Interesting (but NOT surprising) the current S.G. comes from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation which is an arm of Johnson & Johnson (who is in direct competition with the tobacco companies to deliver nicotine).
In the long run, this may be a good thing. The theories proposed by the SG are so preposterous that they're very likely to cause quite a few people to question the whole house of cards that the government has been building out of lies and half-truths lately.
"Always follow the money." I learned that early in my career. When looking at scientific studies I always looked to see who endowed the research. I was rarely surprised.
My brother worked at an Army & Navy store in high school and when a customer wanted something differnet than what the store had one of the elderly owners would always say, "If you want a blue suit, turn on a blue light."
The uninformed and plain stupid will buy the press. Its just too bad that their one vote equals that of the rest of us.
Our current SG, Regina Benjamin, was a consultant for Burger King and one look at her will tell you that she did a fair amount of "in house" research.
My brother worked at an Army & Navy store in high school and when a customer wanted something differnet than what the store had one of the elderly owners would always say, "If you want a blue suit, turn on a blue light."
The uninformed and plain stupid will buy the press. Its just too bad that their one vote equals that of the rest of us.
Our current SG, Regina Benjamin, was a consultant for Burger King and one look at her will tell you that she did a fair amount of "in house" research.
More Paternalism. They are trying to change people's behavior to as they see fit. I live in Maryland and those idiots ruined the tobacco industry here.
Most people can't think critically for a second. It's even worse if they have lots of money and no time to spend. Always looking for easy fixes. Rapidly vanishing attention spans are part of the problem; consumerism and loss of values another. But governmental/institutional misinformation and corruption account for most of our issues today. With transparent politics, honest leaders, sound science, and rigourous education we wouldn't need to parse through every article to find lies and half truths. Unfortunately the situation I just described is purely a fantasy. We have to accept that the government is not interested in getting to the bottom of what truly causes tobacco-related illness or any other pressing problem. We are instead at the mercy of special interests, industry titans, lobbyists, and powerbrokers of all kinds.
I don't for a second believe that smoking goes without consequences. Cause and effect also extends to air pollution exposure, an unbalanced diet, lack of exercise, alcoholism, reckless driving, and the vagaries of genetics. It's just sad that biases can't be set aside to determine whether or not one can moderately smoke a pipe, for example, without adverse effects over the long term. What ever happened to inquiry for its own sake?
It is easy to pawn off cancer on third hand smoke when we have no idea what havoc recently synthesized chemicals are wreaking on our bodies as we consume them casually every day. Just like I say about sugar, at least I know its effects after being eaten for hundreds of years - aspartame and all those artificial sweeteners strike me with fear in comparison. Tobacco has a long history, it has a bad reputation, but is it always justified without critical consideration? No.
Enough freedoms have been infringed. I hope people can finally understand that this is a fallacy without further crushing the rights of those who privately choose to smoke and live their lives.
I don't for a second believe that smoking goes without consequences. Cause and effect also extends to air pollution exposure, an unbalanced diet, lack of exercise, alcoholism, reckless driving, and the vagaries of genetics. It's just sad that biases can't be set aside to determine whether or not one can moderately smoke a pipe, for example, without adverse effects over the long term. What ever happened to inquiry for its own sake?
It is easy to pawn off cancer on third hand smoke when we have no idea what havoc recently synthesized chemicals are wreaking on our bodies as we consume them casually every day. Just like I say about sugar, at least I know its effects after being eaten for hundreds of years - aspartame and all those artificial sweeteners strike me with fear in comparison. Tobacco has a long history, it has a bad reputation, but is it always justified without critical consideration? No.
Enough freedoms have been infringed. I hope people can finally understand that this is a fallacy without further crushing the rights of those who privately choose to smoke and live their lives.
What we need as Pipe Smokers is a face that has access to mainstrem media and can speak well on the subject. Thoughout history we have seen great men that have been Pipe Smokers and have had the mainstream in their own right.
Cortez for the win! Brilliant cartoon.
Lifestyle is not the sole arbiter of our lives. Some people get sick prematurely no matter what choices they make, some people see ripe old age out of dumb luck looking past eighty years of bad habits. We can't beat nature and we can't beat chance, you'd think we would accept that by now! All it takes is an eloquent Neanderthal to put it in perspective.
Lifestyle is not the sole arbiter of our lives. Some people get sick prematurely no matter what choices they make, some people see ripe old age out of dumb luck looking past eighty years of bad habits. We can't beat nature and we can't beat chance, you'd think we would accept that by now! All it takes is an eloquent Neanderthal to put it in perspective.
Cortez that cartoon is awesome and fits perfectly with my thoughts on the subject! Got to love the Nazis!
The country is bankrupt they will try anything to come up with money . The city of Houston is 30 million in debt and the state of Texas 18 billion and we have a good economy or so they say . 49% of the country recieves welfare or some form of aid you do the math . Still clinging to my guns ,Bible and money .
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