During the nightcap drought i started smoking sutliffs nightcap match as i couldnt get my hands on any dunhill. Now that we have access to peterson nightcap, my question to anyone whos tried both is- is sutliff’s match even close? Ive never tried the real thing and want to make sure its something im going to enjoy
Sutliff Nightcap Match
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You like a match blend but you're questioning if you might like the real thing??
Pretty sure you already know the answer to this question.
Pretty sure you already know the answer to this question.
Real Nightcap is like Match only richer in flavor, deeper in aroma and more complex. If you like match, you will definitely like Nightcap.
Will you like it better? Who knows until you give it a try?
Will you like it better? Who knows until you give it a try?
The Nightcap match was based on the Murray's version. Here's my review of it:
The original and the Match (which was based on the Murrays’ version) have the same grassy, citrusy Virginia in equal amount, thus having the same effect. That is also true of the Oriental/Turkish and the perique. The former is lightly floral, leathery, musty, dry and woody and just rises above being a condiment. The lightly spicy, rather plumy perique is a background player. In looking at both tobaccos, I can not tell one from the other. The only difference I notice is that the latakia in the original is a little stronger in taste in all ways: Cyprian sweetness, smokiness and wood. At times during a smoke, the Match seemed nearly identical to the original, and other times not so much. The depth of the attributes of the latakia - not the amount of latakia - is the only variable. Stirring up the tobacco in the Match produced better results for me, but did not completely solve the problem. The strength level of this blend is almost medium. Has a mild nic-hit, and won't bite or get harsh. Both burn clean and cool at a moderate pace with a consistent flavor. Leaves little moisture in the bowl, and needs an average number of relights. Has a pleasant, smoky after taste, and stronger room note. Not quite an all day smoke, though it is certainly repeatable. I gave four stars to the original. Three to this.
The original and the Match (which was based on the Murrays’ version) have the same grassy, citrusy Virginia in equal amount, thus having the same effect. That is also true of the Oriental/Turkish and the perique. The former is lightly floral, leathery, musty, dry and woody and just rises above being a condiment. The lightly spicy, rather plumy perique is a background player. In looking at both tobaccos, I can not tell one from the other. The only difference I notice is that the latakia in the original is a little stronger in taste in all ways: Cyprian sweetness, smokiness and wood. At times during a smoke, the Match seemed nearly identical to the original, and other times not so much. The depth of the attributes of the latakia - not the amount of latakia - is the only variable. Stirring up the tobacco in the Match produced better results for me, but did not completely solve the problem. The strength level of this blend is almost medium. Has a mild nic-hit, and won't bite or get harsh. Both burn clean and cool at a moderate pace with a consistent flavor. Leaves little moisture in the bowl, and needs an average number of relights. Has a pleasant, smoky after taste, and stronger room note. Not quite an all day smoke, though it is certainly repeatable. I gave four stars to the original. Three to this.
IMNSHO, the Murray’s version of Nightcap simply had more “presence” than the STG version, which I have every confidence is the same under the Peterson or Dunhill label. Everything was there, but only about 75% or so. But try a tin for yourself, I know one smoker who likes the current version better, is thrilled to have it back and is hoping that the day comes (promised, he says) when it is available in 5 lb bags.. I think the Sutliff version is pretty damn good at an attractive price. And it is easy to find on sale.
I ordered a 1 pound bag of this and I'm really disappointed in it.
What I got was a 1 pound factory sealed poly bag, not loose bulk in a zip lock bag.
There wasn't an aroma rather it was more of a stench. I could smell nothing but plastic, chemicals and a very slight hint of latakia; upon opening the bag.The tobacco was actually wet with what I assumed to be PG.
I dumped a good handful in a coffee filter and let it sit over night hoping to dry it out some.It did, but not by much.
I tried smoking it out of cobs, briars and now meerschaums and it all tastes about the same.
I find it flavorless, weak, and it has a very odd "bursting water balloon" affect.As I smoked it, I would occasionally get a sudden burst of moisture seemingly out of nowhere.
I find no similarities at all between this MATCH and Dunhill/Peterson tined Nightcap.
Based on what I'm reading in this thread, one of two things is going on here.
I tolerated 8 bowls of this stuff. I just can't smoke it. 4 of those bowls were from a ball jar that sat for a week.It still smells like the poly bag and is extremely weak.I can detect no flavor or nicotine at all.
I feel I wasted money on this stuff.I have the rest of it in jars sitting in a dry dark area in the back of a cabinet. I'll try it again in few months.If it's not any better then I'll have to throw it in the garbage.
What I got was a 1 pound factory sealed poly bag, not loose bulk in a zip lock bag.
There wasn't an aroma rather it was more of a stench. I could smell nothing but plastic, chemicals and a very slight hint of latakia; upon opening the bag.The tobacco was actually wet with what I assumed to be PG.
I dumped a good handful in a coffee filter and let it sit over night hoping to dry it out some.It did, but not by much.
I tried smoking it out of cobs, briars and now meerschaums and it all tastes about the same.
I find it flavorless, weak, and it has a very odd "bursting water balloon" affect.As I smoked it, I would occasionally get a sudden burst of moisture seemingly out of nowhere.
I find no similarities at all between this MATCH and Dunhill/Peterson tined Nightcap.
Based on what I'm reading in this thread, one of two things is going on here.
- The factory sealed bags are lower quality product and the loose bulk is actually better quality.
- I got a rotten bag of product.It didn't taste spoiled.Just very very weak and it took on the sent of the poly bag it was packed in.
I tolerated 8 bowls of this stuff. I just can't smoke it. 4 of those bowls were from a ball jar that sat for a week.It still smells like the poly bag and is extremely weak.I can detect no flavor or nicotine at all.
I feel I wasted money on this stuff.I have the rest of it in jars sitting in a dry dark area in the back of a cabinet. I'll try it again in few months.If it's not any better then I'll have to throw it in the garbage.
There's no different between loose bags and sealed bags. No company is going to produce separate runs for that.
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