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zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
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My tale begins about a month ago. There is a very cool B&M in the SODO district in Seattle. I was able to visit the store and the owner told me that he no long is carrying pipe tobacco or pipes (he had about 4 tins left). He said the prohibitive laws in WA state plus competing with the internet has led to his business decision to move away from pipes.
Then yesterday while in San Jose (thank you all for the recommendations), I was able to vist Mission Pipes and Smokers Pleasure. Mission was a nice store but like I experienced in Seattle, the guy I was speaking with did not have any knowledge of pipes or tobacco. They had a nice selection of pipes there and when I asked to see a Poker, he said "ummm, which one is that". I think that store will survive because their main business is cigars, they have a smoking room and are knowledgeable of cigars.
Next I went to Smokers Pleasure and had a nice conversation with Lisa (or Linda). Very nice, knowledgeable of pipes and helpful. Giant selection of tobaccos but I noticed that almost all of them were completely full to the brim. When I opened them to smell, the tobacco was packed pretty tight, telling me that they're probably not seeing a lot of action. We had a nice conversation about small business ownership, the excessive and heavy hand of Gov'mt (ok, I'll stop there before I get my A thrown out of here), and how the internet has really taken a bit out of her business. Of course, I wouldnt even be in her store without the internet but I think there is a balance we need to strike. At least for me - not telling anyone what to do.
Going forward, I am going to shop first at the B&M and get what I want. If not available, then I'll go online. I would hate to think of the day when pipes are no longer a viable business. We can probably count on 1 hand how many record stores are left but I remember the great pleasure of spending an entire saturday in the store listening to music I would someday own.

 

bubblehead33

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 17, 2012
615
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Canada
I'm in the same situation as Uber. The nearest real B&M (not counting the little smoke shops going into some grocery stores) is nearly 2 hours and a $45 bridge toll away. If there was one closer I really still couldn't afford to support it as much as I would like to with the price of tobacco here. The idea of a smoke shop is great but the reality of it today, in my neck of the woods anyway, just isn't feasible.

 

gray4lines

Part of the Furniture Now
Nov 6, 2012
679
2
KY
It is surprisingly difficult to find a good B&M near by (by "good" I mean not a gas station or also a liquor store).
There is a good one close to where I am, I haven't been in a couple months, but I used to go once a week. It is about 35 min from me, but 15 from where I work.
It is always worth it to pick up a tin or 2 of pipe tobacco, or a few cigars. My particular shop even had a club where for $50 you got 2 cigars for free (up to $20 each) and 25% off of all purchases. So really, prices were very competitive.

 

uberam3rica

Lifer
Sep 7, 2011
4,015
9
Capac, Michigan
The nearest real B&M (not counting the little smoke shops going into some grocery stores) is nearly 2 hours and a $45 bridge toll away

I don't have a toll, just the drive. I like to make a whole day of it when I go. Theres an excellent coffee shop by mine that has damn good coffee and amazing crepes made to order. I have two smoke shops by me, but the only pipes they have are cobs, and cheap Chinese bullshit. The only baccy they have is OTC blends. Both have a good selection of cigars though.

 

zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
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Ya I totally understand these situations. As I've posted before, I am less than satisfied with the B&Ms in the Seattle market but what I am saying is "when I can and given a viable choice", I am going to chose to support the local mom and pop shop so we dont have the situation where you have to drive 2 hours and pay extortion level tolls to get a little tobacco.

 

bubblehead33

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 17, 2012
615
0
Canada
haha Mike, yea we're pretty well screwed. It used to be a car ferry that took 45 minutes in the summer or up to 10-12 hours in the winter, depending on the ice to a 12 minute car ride now, but we are being robbed. Sorry zonomo about hijacking your thread.

 

zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
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BTW, really $45? ouch. I have never heard of such a thing. I remember in the 80's when I lived in San Fran, the Golden Gate was about $2 and it was a dang near riot since the Bay Bridge was .75.

 

crpntr1

Lifer
Dec 18, 2011
1,981
157
Texas
I'd love to support my B&M but as I posted awhile back everytime I call them or go in there they tell me they don't have what I'm looking for and I should just look online. I found another ine an hour from home, we do go to that town every so often and I always pay them a visit...

 

bubblehead33

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 17, 2012
615
0
Canada
@zonomo it's still cheaper than driving to the other end of the Island to cross on the ferry, which is $66 now and an hour and fifteen minute crossing. It's great living on an island other than that haha.

 

bubblehead33

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 17, 2012
615
0
Canada
Close, Mike. I live in Prince Edward Island. The ferry runs to NS and the bridge to New Brunswick. The bridge really has been a blessing but it's pretty costly to cross it.

 

kris

Can't Leave
Sep 16, 2012
433
2
I have never bought tobacco online (although my wife got me some Special Reserve for xmas because she knows I loved it).
I have only ever bought one pipe online, my Storient meer.
It is important to me to support the very few remaining "proper" tobacconist shops. I suppose that my decision is made easier by the fact that over here in the UK online prices are really no different than in a b&m...

 

zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
1,584
5
Anyone who has risked their personal convictions has risked their skin, has risked jail and worse. The first person to NOT sit on the back of the bus. The person who said no to the King's taxes. Some things are worth fighting for so the question is: Which ones are and which ones aren't.

 

yadan

Can't Leave
Dec 23, 2012
336
1
Central Galilee, Israel
Well, I'm fortunate in that my local B&M is but a two minute walk from my residence - no tolls, no carfare, no parking problems and the like.

The problem, however, is that his stock is limited to mid-range to cheap briars and a few models of MM cobs. His tobacco stock is limited to about ten common pouch brands and a few good tins.

I'm a big fan of Falcons, but his new distributor will not import them.

So, I'm often left with no choice but to purchase online.

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
20,248
57,313
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Sarasota Florida
It is just a matter of time before there will be no b/m's carrying pipe tobacco. My local guy has a very small selection and the prices are double to triple what I pay on line because of the ridiculous tax they imposed on pipe tobacco. There was no tax on cigars because they have a very vocal lobby that gets things done. I support my guy by bringing pipes to fix and buying the occasional lighter or fuel or other accessories, but I refuse to pay for the stupid tax. The pipe tobacco companies were short sighted and did not step up like the cigar lobby. How they allowed this to happen is beyond me.

 

zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
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When I was in college, students got so stoked up about how f'd up the University's decision was, they threw pig's blood at the husband and wife benefactors during the dedication of the new nursing school because they felt is was wrong to accept their money. Another time, they invaded and seized the entire Administration Building, threw the President out and then took a dump on his desk.
I think there is a big difference between a protest and being disrespectful. The situations you have cited seem to fall in the disrespect category. So someone kicks down a boat load of money and they are rewarded with pigs blood thrown on them? Seems misdirected. Taking a poop on the desk? Not seeing this in same vein as a person refusing to give up their seat to a person of a different ethnic background.

 

brdavidson

Lifer
Dec 30, 2012
2,017
7
It's tough, my local B&M is a great little shop and they are doing well it seems. I was speaking to the owner the other day and they are actually expanding their pipe business because its taking off there! They have about 20 bulk blends, mostly Mr. B's (Brigham) and a few McClelland blends but their plan is to double it to over 40 blends. They have a small tin selection but it is decent in quality (Erinmore Flake, Escudo, some Peterson Aros, WO Larsen) as well as the typical CBW/R and SWR. They mostly carry Brigham pipes but the selection is a little on the small side, but again they are planning on expanding. It's just tough to spend $25 plus 13% tax on a pouch of CBR when I can get the same thing online for $5.
I spend money there every week because I want them around, but I will also order online once I figure out my everyday tobacco and can buy in bulk.

 
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