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sirsmokesalot

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 4, 2012
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I really love peterson pipes as many others here seem too!

I'm just wondering why peterson dips their pipes in the :?: stain?

Do you think this might be why everyone says peterson pipes

are hard to break in? AND...What's really in that stain we're smoking? :?:

 

pstlpkr

Lifer
Dec 14, 2009
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Birmingham, AL
Not long ago one of the Members contacted Peterson with that basic question in mind... (If memory serves.)

It is my understanding that not all of Peterson pipes are "dipped", some are not stained inside.

That would be their higher end pipes.

They use a cork in the bowl to keep the stain from getting into the bowl.

Peterson also said they are making an effort to extend the practice to all of their pipes...

But, that may take a while.

To answer your question... I can only guess they consider it an expedient practice.

 

sirsmokesalot

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 4, 2012
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North Carolina
Well I'm glad they are making the effort to stop the practice. I know that I've had

Stain in the bowl of some Eric Nording pipes and savinelli Pipes before as well.

I'm just concerned about the stain being harmful to us who have to smoke it.

I actually took a Dremel with a Round sanding bit and took the inside of one of my peterson pipes

down to the bare wood inside the bowl. It came of looking really great! Did a salt and alcohol

treatment after that, and I was very pleased with the results.

 
May 8, 2017
1,680
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Sugar Grove, IL, USA
Wow!! I purchased a Peterson System Standard pipe in a lot of 14 pipes. It was either unsmoked or barely smoked. Although the alcohol-soaked pipe cleaner came out of the stem sparkling clean, I went ahead and put it down the draft hole. When I pulled it out, I was in shock. STAIN, STAIN, STAIN!!!! Yikes! More pipecleaners and more stain. Finally, I decided to just pour the alcohol into the bowl and let it soak for 30 minutes. I dumped it out onethis paper towel. Really, this isn't acceptable, Peterson. Hopefully, the guy I bought this from has had it awhile and Peterson has changed their production, as was suggested in an earlier post was in the plans.
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Oddly enough, this was on the heels of cleaning up a Stanwell bent, which had gobs of uneven and overly-thick red-orange stain, similar in tone to the Peterson. It looked to me like the previous owner probably ended up with stained fingers, based upon the blotchiness in the area where you'd hold the pipe. I used acetone-soaked paper towels to remove the excess and was amazed at how it kept coming off. It took me about 15 minutes to remove what I deemed to be the excess stain. It almost seemed like Stanwell was using the stain like a semi-transparent paint, rather than a stain. The result was a pretty cheap-looking pipe. After removing the excess stain, wet-sanding with 1500 grit paper and a dab of camellia oil, various stages of micro mesh, Tripoli buff, and carnauba, I think it's a handsome and rich-looking pipe. It's hard to understand how a company could be so careless in the finishing step. It devalues the pipes greatly, IMHO. Here's the redone pipe.
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warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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Stain isn't an issue with the vast majority of pipe smokers, myself included. If it impacted on how the pipe smoked? I suppose I'd just wipe it out. If it adversely impacted sales? Peterson wouldn't do it.

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,465
19,026
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
It may add a few more, who's counting, but, I doubt they are any more lethal. I probably suck in worse, at a higher count, when I smoke a pork butt. Now that I mention it, I'd try a smokey blend labeled "Essence of Pulled Pork." Perhaps "Pork Butt Extraordinaire." Sure and it wouldn't be anything like a Lakeland. I can dream I suppose.
A quick PM to Russ might do the trick.

 
May 8, 2017
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Sugar Grove, IL, USA
Not toxic? Or at least, not very. It sounds like little more than simple conjecture to me. Do you know what stain is used by Peterson? Have you seen its MSDS?
Since the alcohol is a solvent for the stain, I'm going to guess that it's analine dye. Some are toxic. Most likely, when dry, they are not toxic, but burn them and the equation may change. Am I throwing out my Pete? No, but I got as much of that crap out as I could before I smoked it.
http://m.wisegeek.org/what-is-aniline-dye.htm
To me, it's an obvious mark of shoddy and careless workmanship. I've got more than 100 pipes and this is the first where I've encountered any stain at all inside the pipe and this is definitely not the cheapest pipe I own.

 
May 4, 2015
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This is not the first time this issue has been discussed.
It always boils down to: buy them or don't. They've started they're working on improving the process.
Though I agree with you, there isn't much else to say beyond that.

 

oldmansmoking

Part of the Furniture Now
May 13, 2017
587
65
UK
Hate the black inner bowl stain. Takes a few smokes to get it smokable.

It also hides a multiple of hidden mistakes.

I bought a new Peterson only to have a hole underneath the stain by the draft hole inside the pipe.

I kept the pipe realising carbon would fill the hole. Quality is something of an issue with what effectively is mass produced pipes.

 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
7,901
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Sunny Cornwall, UK.
I think Craig makes a fair point about the unknown toxicity of the stains pipemaker's use. I certainly wouldn't want to smoke a pipe that had stain in the bowl and shank.
If I recall there was much ado about Peterson's dip staining a while ago which resulted in a statement (published on this forum) from the bossman stating they would cease the practice. It was obviously affecting sales.
Regards,
Jay.

 

kirkland

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 24, 2017
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I stopped buying new Petes a long time ago..their sloppy and TOXIC dipstaining BS is only one reason why. AND they are still doing it..low, mid and high end pipes. Junk !

 
Jan 8, 2013
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Meh... I don't really worry too much about it. Granted, I'd rather all of my pipes came bowl stain free and carbon coating free, but so many pipes come with at least the coating that I just don't worry about it too much. Maybe I've been lucky, but my Petes all smoke great, I like the way they look, and I know I'll buy more.

 
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