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Briar Tuck

Lifer
Nov 29, 2022
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That's why you should never attempt to run from wolves, bears, mountain lions, etc., because they are much faster than you, and running away triggers their prey response.

No wolves in my part of Oregon (yet), but we have lots of bears and mountain lions.
 

georged

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That's why you should never attempt to run from wolves, bears, mountain lions, etc., because they are much faster than you, and running away triggers their prey response.

As a last resort---nothing to lose, right?---it seems your best bet is to out-aggressionize the hungry critter. Give IT second thoughts about you being an easy snack.


 

Briar Tuck

Lifer
Nov 29, 2022
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As a last resort---nothing to lose, right?---it seems your best bet is to out-aggressionize the hungry critter. Give IT second thoughts about you being an easy snack.


This is exactly right. It would take serious balls to do it, but they are more likely to run away if you act aggressively toward them. This is why they recommend trying to make yourself look larger if you encounter a mountain lion, because they are intimidated by larger prey, but going one step further and charging the mountain lion would likely be even more effective.
 
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warren

Lifer
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Little bity pistols? I travel with a 12 gauge when in bear and wolf country with my cameras. My intention os tp break the aggressive animal down and then kill it, not poke holes. Shooting an animal with a small caliber pistol intended for use against humans, in a high stress situation just seems ... well, unconscionable. Unless that wee 10 mm is for putting up your rear and shooting yourself in the head. Or. shooting your companion in the knee to slow them down as an offering to predator.rotf
 
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Briar Tuck

Lifer
Nov 29, 2022
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Oregon coast
Little bity pistols? I travel with a 12 gauge when in bear and wolf country with my cameras. My intention os tp break the aggressive animal down and then kill it, not poke holes. Shooting an animal with a small caliber pistol intended for use against humans, in a high stress situation just seems ... well, unconscionable. Unless that wee 10 mm is for putting up your rear and shooting yourself in the head. Or. shooting your companion in the knee to slow them down as an offering to predator.rotf
They regularly take down brown bears with 10mm in Alaska, and the Danish Sirius Patrol in the Arctic carries the Glock 20 for defense against polar bears. I have complete confidence carrying my Glock 20 in black bear country. A shotgun would be fine too, but much more bulky and obtrusive in the field for the activities I'm usually engaged in.

Full house 10mm loads are no joke.
 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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Little bitty black bears? Maybe if you're a good enough shot under stress. A full grown enraged Griz or Brown? You'd best kille 'em before they get with twenty feet of you. Up here serious bear encounters are usually at close range and human is caught by surprise. I only need to raise the muzzle. Most carry their wee pistols in a holster of some kind. Best not to meet such animals face to face in the first place. If you are hunting big game, with backup, maybe a wee pistol will suffice. I damned well won't bet my life on something that small. I can break a bear down with slugs and, if that doesn't work, when I get to the 00 hopefully I can deflect him/her.

Hopefully I'll never face such a situation. I've had to flip the safety a few times over the years but, luckily, I've only faced "bluff" charges and the bear never crossed the line I'd mentally drawn. I have, over the years, pushed the lne farther away. Dears are so damned fast.
 
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Briar Tuck

Lifer
Nov 29, 2022
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Oregon coast
Little bitty black bears? Maybe if you're a good enough shot under stress. A full grown enraged Griz or Brown? You'd best kille 'em before they get with twenty feet of you. Up here serious bear encounters are usually at close range and human is caught by surprise. I only need to raise the muzzle. Most carry their wee pistols in a holster of some kind. Best not to meet such animals face to face in the first place. If you are hunting big game, with backup, maybe a wee pistol will suffice. I damned well won't bet my life on something that small. I can break a bear down with slugs and, if that doesn't work, when I get to the 00 hopefully I can deflect him/her.

Hopefully I'll never face such a situation. I've had to flip the safety a few times over the years but, luckily, I've only faced "bluff" charges and the bear never crossed the line I'd mentally drawn. I have, over the years, pushed the lne farther away. Dears are so damned fast.
If I had a shotgun at the ready I'd take that over any pistol, but I'm one of those guys that carry in a holster and have my hands free to do other activities.

Like I said though, 10mm is proven effective even at stopping brown bear attacks.

Alaskans Stop Grizzly Bear Charge with Glock 10mm On Elmendorf-Richardson - https://www.ammoland.com/2019/10/alaskans-stop-grizzly-bear-charge-with-glock-10mm-on-elmendorf-richardson/#axzz7oj5RZo9l

Alaskan Hiker Stops Charging Brown Bear with 10mm Handgun - The Truth About Guns - https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/alaskan-hiker-stops-charging-brown-bear-at-6-feet-with-10mm-handgun/