Question Re: G&H/Synjeco Ropes

[odobenus]

Hey all, hoping for some elucidation/opinions regarding the blends made by G&H for Synjeco (the ropes, twists, and curly cut). To my palate and nose, they come across as very smokey. Almost -- dare I say it -- even Latakia-ish. It's close to the same effect I get from the G&H Happy Bogie. Big savory notes, very little sweetness. Like a hunk of smoked meat.
Does that mean, necessarily, that the VAs are dark-fired? I know dark-fired doesn't always mean it'll be smokey, but in this case?
Thanks.

 

[karam]

I don't get smokiness from them, certainly nothing like Latakia or Kentucky, and find Holker Twist to be as sweet as I like it. Haven't had brown bogie but have had Brown Irish X, the maple and rum twists, which I believe to be the same thing with miniscule amounts of flavouring added.

The wrappers are very distinctive for me, it is fire cured Virginia, I find it oily and not so pleasant. @Ahi Ka made a good observation that the thinner ropes have a higher ratio of wrapper to filler (as they are thinner!), so they are bound to have more of its taste. @cosmicfolklore could shed some light on dark fire cured/air cured Virginia. I think the point is that we associate Virginia with flue cured brightleaf, while Gawith use a lot of "Imperial" varieties which may have little relation to brightleaf.

Coming back to Synjeco's ropes, I love the Holker Twist but sometimes prefer to remove the wrapper leaf and just keep the bright Virginia and Perique core.

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

I'm not expert on G&H co products but i have read somewhere they often use dark fired so called imperial virginia leaf in some of them blends

 

[Brendan]

Geeeeez @odobenus that avatar photo.

What did that organic Va leaf do to you ?

 

[mingc]

Geeeeez @odobenus that avatar photo.

What did that organic Va leaf do to you ?

That disturbed me too. ?

 

[cosmicfolklore]

. @cosmicfolklore could shed some light on dark fire cured/air cured Virginia.

I think someone should send me some of these ropes and I'll give them the ol' 1, 2, 3...

 

[odobenus]

Geeeeez @odobenus that avatar photo.

What did that organic Va leaf do to you ?

Ha! That's my wife's beloved grandfather, the Irish actor Dan O'Herlihy. He was 'Grig' in The Last Starfighter and being that it was too onerous to get out of that costume, he just wore it home for lunch and a pipe.

 

[odobenus]

I don't get smokiness from them, certainly nothing like Latakia or Kentucky, and find Holker Twist to be as sweet as I like it. Haven't had brown bogie but have had Brown Irish X, the maple and rum twists, which I believe to be the same thing with miniscule amounts of flavouring added.

The wrappers are very distinctive for me, it is fire cured Virginia, I find it oily and not so pleasant. @Ahi Ka made a good observation that the thinner ropes have a higher ratio of wrapper to filler (as they are thinner!), so they are bound to have more of its taste. @cosmicfolklore could shed some light on dark fire cured/air cured Virginia. I think the point is that we associate Virginia with flue cured brightleaf, while Gawith use a lot of "Imperial" varieties which may have little relation to brightleaf.

Coming back to Synjeco's ropes, I love the Holker Twist but sometimes prefer to remove the wrapper leaf and just keep the bright Virginia and Perique core.

Very interesting -- thank you! I suspected dark fired. Dark fired and fire cured are synonymous? It didn't occur to me that it would just be the wrapper.

 

[Brendan]

Ha! That's my wife's beloved grandfather, the Irish actor Dan O'Herlihy. He was 'Grig' in The Last Starfighter and being that it was too onerous to get out of that costume, he just wore it home for lunch and a pipe.

Far out! How cool is that!
Thats pretty hilarious actually - I hope he had a good bowl with all that stuff on, would have made retrohaling interesting!
I'm going to google Mr O'Herlily now, check out what else he may have been in.

If I ever get a chance to watch The Last Starfighter I'll have a bowl in his honour ?

Cheers, sorry didn't mean to sidetrack your thread!

 

[kwg116]

Ha! That's my wife's beloved grandfather, the Irish actor Dan O'Herlihy. He was 'Grig' in The Last Starfighter and being that it was too onerous to get out of that costume, he just wore it home for lunch and a pipe.

As soon as I looked at your avatar this morning it took me right back to being a kid watching the Last Star Fighter in the movie theater.

 

[odobenus]

Far out! How cool is that!
Thats pretty hilarious actually - I hope he had a good bowl with all that stuff on, would have made retrohaling interesting!
I'm going to google Mr O'Herlily now, check out what else he may have been in.

If I ever get a chance to watch The Last Starfighter I'll have a bowl in his honour ?

Cheers, sorry didn't mean to sidetrack your thread!

Sidetrack it away!
He was nominated for an Oscar for playing the title character in Bunuel's 'Robinson Crusoe.'
Came over to the States originally to play MacDuff in Orson Welles' Macbeth.
Did a lot of B-movie work in his later years. Also Robocop!

 

[Peter Turbo]

Ha! That's my wife's beloved grandfather, the Irish actor Dan O'Herlihy. He was 'Grig' in The Last Starfighter and being that it was too onerous to get out of that costume, he just wore it home for lunch and a pipe.

thats awesome i watched that movie when i was a kid.

 

[karam]

Very interesting -- thank you! I suspected dark fired. Dark fired and fire cured are synonymous? It didn't occur to me that it would just be the wrapper.

I don't think they are the same thing. I'd associate Dark Fired with burley: Dark Fired Kentucky, while fire-cured with dark Imperial Virginias.