Please Help Me with Some History...

[odysseusjak]

I was recently given this Savinelli Punto Oro army mount pipe. However, it's not lining up with any of the information I see. As can be seen, this is stamped with 9004, but it looks like a 904. Also, I can't make out if this is sterling silver or nickel. I'm thinking it's sterling because of the tarnishing; I've never seen nickel look like this. Lastly, I'm trying to determine if the initials D.H.B. were added by a previous owner or, perhaps, was a special edition. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Jack+

PIcture 03

 

[warren]

Unable to view picture. I can tel you that if it is silver, there should be hallmarks.

 

[blackbeard]

Savinelli on the Punto Oro - Link
While I can't see your pictures, here are two other Savinelli listed as 9004.

Hopefully someone with past knowledge on Savinelli will jump in with more info.

In no way am I endorsing these sites, as I don't know them. It's just for reference to the pipe shape.
Link to another 9004
And Another 9004

 

[odysseusjak]

Thanks for the help, folks. I'm not sure why the images didn't come through, that's why I set up the links, but then those stopped working, too. Anyway, here's some new links:
Image 01
Image 02
Image 03
Concerning the silver: I can't tell if the hallmark has been worn off or not.
Thanks again!
j+

 

[hawke]

If you haven't seen this...
Savinelli at pipedia

 

[odysseusjak]

Yes, Hawke, I'm aware of that page but it doesn't help me with my pipe. Thanks, though.

 

[dmcmtk]

So, it's an older 9004, and I would agree, the Army Mount looks like Sterling. I would think the D.H.B. are the previous owner's initials, not a special edition. I think the Sterling mount and stem both look great on that shape!

Savinelli opted for 3 digits shape code in the 1970's.

Prior to this date 4 digits code occured.

http://www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/infos/savinelli-chart.html
Also, one would not expect "hallmarks" on Italian silver, the Savinelli shield is on some of the silver used on Savinelli pipes.

 

[odysseusjak]

Thanks Dave! I appreciate the help. While looking at the mount, I can barely make out "Sterling Silver" on one side and "Savinelli" on the other. I mean, it's almost completely gone.
Pre-1970, huh? That's really cool!
Thanks again!
j+

 

[dmcmtk]

Saved your pictures.

One of my favorite Savinelli shapes!

 

[dmcmtk]

While looking at the mount, I can barely make out "Sterling Silver" on one side and "Savinelli" on the other. I mean, it's almost completely gone.

That would make perfect sense. NICE PIPE!

 

[odysseusjak]

Thanks for the saved pics, Dave!

 

[jpmcwjr]

Heavens! I picked one up two weeks ago, very much like that one. I love the metal dot in the stem, which I heard Dunhill sued over and won, so Sav no longer put a dot there.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Wow, was looking for more yachts, and came across this thread. Small world, I own that very pipe.

 

[anthonyrosenthal74]

:rofl: Ha! That really IS the very same pipe. Small world indeed.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I didn't see this thread when it was first posted last year, and now I have the pipe. Weird :crazy:

 

[Chasing Embers]

Oh, and reading down through this thread, the silver is a shank accent. The stem goes into briar beneath the silver. Not a true military mount.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Those 9004's are fantastic. By any chance did you guys buy (win) those from a Greek ebayer? I picked up several Savinellis from that same style but different shapes myself.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I got that one from SPC a few weeks ago. Apparently the OP tired of it and sold it to SPC, but now it's found its forever home!

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Duane, if you get tired of it, just give me a nod, and I'll take it of your hands in a heart beat.

 

[Chasing Embers]

:mrgreen: 904s and 9004s are the center of my collecting interest. It'll be here for a while.