Pipes With "Longer Stems" Question

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easterntraveler

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 29, 2012
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I have a Ser Jacopo that burns really cool. However the stem is fairly long compared to my other pipes. Its stem is 6 inches long. After reading about church wardens and how hot they tend to burn I have developed an opinion that pipes with longer stems burn hotter. Anyway my Ser Jacopo's side walls are also fairly thin. No matter what I do the walls heat up pretty fast about ten to 15 minutes after light up. Also if I set it down to cool off it heats back up even faster. Sipping does not prevent this from happening. Is this just the nature of long stem pipes? I am becoming scared of damaging this pipe and do not know how to approach the situation other than smoking out of it once a week which I would prefer to smoke atleast every other day. I do not have this issue with my other shorter stem pipes.
Also note that I can hold the bowl in my hands with a loose grip but I find myself constantly testing the heat of the bowl on my cheek. It has not become unbearable but it burns significantly hotter than my other pipes.
Thoughts

 

flyguy

Lifer
Nov 20, 2012
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I own several Churchwardens and haven't noticed they smoke cooler than any other of my pipes. I have noticed that pipes with thicker bowls seem to smoke cooler. This is my unscientific opinion. :D

 

easterntraveler

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 29, 2012
805
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I would say it is a newer pipe. It does have a coating in it however I have smoked out of it about 25-30 times and have very little cake in it. Any cake that has formed is closer to the rim of the bowl.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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I have a Ser Jacopo with a full-length stem that does not burn hot, and I have a Savenelli churchwarden 601

rusticated that does not burn hot. It could be that when people smoke pipes with longer stems, the smoke

is cooler when it reaches the mouth so they smoke a little faster to get the flavor they are used to having.

I have an Iwan Ries Exclusive Canadian that has about the longest stem (other than the churchwarden)

that I have, and it has a relatively thin-walled Algerian briar bowl (I think it is) and it feels a little hotter to

the touch than many of my other pipes, but there is much of the bowl that is cool enough to hold, and it

does not appear to be burning out or tending to crack. I don't think you have a problem, but others may

have other ideas on this.

 

bigvan

Lifer
Mar 22, 2011
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By "burning hot/cool", do you mean the temperature of the BOWL or the temperature of the SMOKE? Some have claimed that a longer stem cools the smoke, some have said the opposite.
Personally I don't think the length of the stem has much to do with the temperature of either. If you can pack well and smoke slowly, you'll get a cool smoke regardless.

 

locopony

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 7, 2011
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Temp of the toby. Hot toby means hot smoke and then hot bowl.

I have found that most pipes will burn exactly as you smoke them. If you smoke too fast they get hot. If you have a heat problem slow down. If it goes out relight. Error on the side of a loose pack cause its easier tighten the bowl with a tamper, and smoke gently and stop worrying.

Everyone makes this far to difficult. Pipe smoking is a relaxing thing. When you relax you will find that better results come quite naturally.

 
Aug 14, 2012
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The longer the stem the cooler the smoke. But, of course, that does not affect the bowl temperature. If you want to keep the bowl temp down either smoke slower or blow gently on the sides. Blowing into the bowl heats it up. Blowing on the side cools it.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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Tickets for relights ... hmmm ... is that a pipe club idea? A fund raiser maybe.

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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It may be you are packing too loosely. When you have a loose pack it will burn significantly hotter. Before lighting, check the draw and make sure you have some decent resistance. Let us know if that helps at all.

 

easterntraveler

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 29, 2012
805
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I tried packing it to the specification everyone has recommended and reapproached my sipping method. I had to relight 5 times (which I thought was good). I used a briar that has only been used about 3 times. I never stopped smoking because the pipe itself got hot. I have been smoking Dunhill Royal Yacht (perfect dryness out of the tin). The best thing about the smoke was very little moister at the bottom. I normally have a small lake down there. I changed my cadence to a 2 second draw about every 10 seconds.

 
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