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Brig

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jun 23, 2024
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Have had this happen with a few pipes in the lot I bought...I soak them in soap and water with the rest and they dry super faded. Is this something that stem polish corrects? Or am I inadvertently bleaching them?

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sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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Southern Oregon
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Have had this happen with a few pipes in the lot I bought...I soak them in soap and water with the rest and they dry super faded. Is this something that stem polish corrects? Or am I inadvertently bleaching them?

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Never use soap and warm water on a vulcanite stem. You’ll gray the stem and raise the sulfur content.
Use alcohol on vulcanite and soap and water on acrylic.
Buy yourself some Micromesh pads to remove the gray and polish the stem to a mirror like shine, then protect with wax and keep out of direct sunlight so that it doesn’t oxidize.
 

Brig

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jun 23, 2024
195
490
New England
Try a little toothpaste to revive it. (unless you have standard polishing materials). The Dawn must have activated with the plastic. I've never soaked a stem or pipe in soapy water, so I don't know if that is common.
Seems half the posts say alcohol half day soap and water, I'll have to get some polishing stuff I guess. Sounds like alcohol damages acrylic and vice versa with vulcanite
 
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Brig

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jun 23, 2024
195
490
New England
Never use soap and warm water on a vulcanite stem. You’ll gray the stem and raise the sulfur content.
Use alcohol on vulcanite and soap and water on acrylic.
Buy yourself some Micromesh pads to remove the gray and polish the stem to a mirror like shine, then protect with wax and keep out of direct sunlight so that it doesn’t oxidize.

Any particular type of wax?
 
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xrundog

Lifer
Oct 23, 2014
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Ames, IA
Seems half the posts say alcohol half day soap and water, I'll have to get some polishing stuff I guess. Sounds like alcohol damages acrylic and vice versa with vulcanite
Alcohol and pipe cleaners for the airway. Wipe the exterior with a damp cloth. Polish if it needs it.
Restoration is a whole different routine.
 

Sobrbiker

Lifer
Jan 7, 2023
5,809
78,464
Casa Grande, AZ
There are all estate pipes so was going for the deep clean
Estate cleaning in my mind is sanitization, and I clean stems and airways in stummel with alcohol for that. Beyond sanitizing is restoring pretty much.

Soap and water is deep clean for stummel, but following that will need waxing, etc. You’re only half-reading if you think half the posts say to soak vulcanite stems in soap and water.
Vulcanite stem deep cleaning usually refers to removing oxidation and is usually where you hear of soaking, and then it’s in an oxiclean or dilute bleach solution. That is followed by some type of abrasive polishing. Cleaning oxidation from vulcanite will always require some abrasion.

Toothpaste is an abrasive polish, albeit mild. Micromesh pads are foam backed sandpaper of varying grit.
Once the oxidation is physically removed (or if you’re cleaning an unoxidized stem) sealing and shining can de done many ways, from a bench buffer with carnauba wax to a wipe of mineral oil (or one of many “snake oils” like Obsidian Oil. I prefer Howard’s Butcher Block conditioner, an emulsion of mineral oil, beeswax, and carnauba.

Pipe cleaners with alcohol (many like myself like high proof spirits as opposed to isopropyl alcohol) are good for cleaning vulcanite airways.