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mariorossi

Might Stick Around
Jul 6, 2018
56
56
Italy
Hello,

I have a couple of estate pipes that, when bought, were strangely shiny and with a strange taste. I tried to wash them with a thoothbrush and whater (as i did numerous time with a lot of estate pipes) and this happen.

Do you know what happened? Maybe is some old dye gone bad?

Thank you

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FLDRD

Lifer
Oct 13, 2021
2,399
9,816
Arkansas
I don't know what it is but I hope you get some answers from some who do; I'd like to know too. My thought would be not the dye, but some type of gloss or varnish that was put on over the dye. I've seen some that were "shiny" in ways that made me not appreciate them. I prefer to see more of the wood / grain, or just have a stain.
 
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mariorossi

Might Stick Around
Jul 6, 2018
56
56
Italy
Wait! Don't use sandpaper. Less abrasive is the use of something like a 3M Abrasive Pad and rubbing alcohol. That way, you will not erase all the stamping/markings. If you want to re-dye it, you can purchase leather dye on Amazon quite easily.
too late...I tried alcohol before but it did nothing to the varnish. Btw i don't care for the markings since are very cheap old pipes. Thank you
 

craig61a

Lifer
Apr 29, 2017
6,166
52,956
Minnesota USA
This seems to be a recurring topic of discussion lately...

The shiny areas are nitrocellulose lacquer. Alcohol doesn't dissolve nitrocellulose lacquer. Lacquer thinner or acetone softens and removes lacquer. Dampen a cloth with lacquer thinner and wipe away the old lacquer. Some of the stain will be removed with it. Stain is applied to raw wood, and a sealant, such as lacquer or shellac is applied over that.

I've read that some artisan makers use shellac (a thin cut) before final sanding as a sanding sealer. But shellac as a finish, generally isn't used, and hasn't been used, even on furniture, for over a century.

Some lower cost pipes are sealed with lacquer in order to present a shiny finish that is more durable than a regular wax finish which has to be maintained in order to look shiny.

Sanding will remove old lacquer too. However, most people are too aggressive when it comes to sanding wood, and it changes the geometry of the finished piece, usually removing any value, what little there is in the first place. There is no reset button if you sand and remove too much material.

Staining is an option once you have removed the old finish. But it does require some practice if you've never done it before in order to get good looking results.
 

Jef

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 10, 2019
297
523
67
North Carolina
I used acetone on a rag and just wiped the outside of the pipe. It took the old finish off quick, easy, and completely. Acetone evaporates very quickly and will not harm the wood. Take the stem off though. I then sent the pipe off to be refinished. That cost me less than $30.00.