Petersen gurgle issue.

[tokerpipes]

I got a Petersen that gurgles because the tennon doesnt reach the end of the inside of the shank which creates a shelf or chamber that the condensation builds up in. i have tried a steady blow to get it to go through the draft hole to the tobacco but it doesnt work, i have also tried tipping the pipe around and some times it goes down the draft hole. is there maybe something i can do to fill the chamber that is on this pipe?
I read the forum post on gurgles but I want to fix this issue if I can...any suggestions?

 

[nsfisher]

i heard some petes gurgle, i never had one. 6 or 9mm balsa wood filters that do not impede draw or change taste of baccy, would help keep u dry mate

 

[jchaplick]

Hmm, I would contact peterson if its really bad. if not just run a pipe cleaner through if its real bad

 

[tokerpipes]

Well its weird when I was cleaning the mortis I niticed the dirty pipe cleaner was like 1/2 an inch longer than the tennon.

 

[mluyckx]

Toker

Can you post a picture of the pipe ? Does it happen to be a Peterson System ?
My new Royal Irish gurgles.. my Harp does not. Both are in 999 shape, but it does appear that the Royal Irish has the Peterson system, while the Harp does not. Also realize the gurgle is just annoying, doesn't do anything on the smoking as such.
Or it could indeed be a mistake.

 

[tokerpipes]

its the Petersen Rock of Cashel 221 fully bent. its the first one pictured in the site below
http://www.mysmokingshop.co.uk/index2.php?mod=mancats&sec=592&man=99
or this one is a better view
http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/peterson/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=49444

 

[mluyckx]

I don't think that's a system.. so what tobacco are you smoking ? Have you tried different ones ? Have you tried letting it dry more and finally, have you tried slowing down ?
Note: I'm a newbie and still have a lot to learn, but those are the things I'm playing with based on what I've been reading.
if you shine a little flashlight in the mortise, does it look kinda like this ? Where the path goes straight, but the airway goes up into the bowl ?

 

[tokerpipes]

yep that"s what it looks like. I am a pretty strong breathed smoker so maybe I just need to sip it more. or can I fill the gravity drain trap? Would that effect the way the pipe smokes?

 

[mluyckx]

I guess you can. I would go look on the Peterson collectors site or perhaps someone here can help as well. I haven't put anything in there.
I have only one pipe with the system and it gurgles. I slow down and it seems to be less. If it does gurgle, I just slide in a pipe cleaner down the stem to sop up the moisture. After smoking and letting the pipe cool, I take off the stem and use a Q-Tip to clean out the trap.
The gurgle just seems to be common with the systems... especially in the beginning.
Again, take all that FWIW... my first system and still learning and got all this from just reading up.. but I hope it was helpful ;-)

 

[lordofthepiperings]

Peterson's Rock of Cashel line has a System design to it? I had no idea there were other lines from Peterson that had the System incorporated in them other than the specific System line. What other lines from Peterson include their famous System design?

 

[mluyckx]

I'm still doing the research, but what I am starting to discover is that it seems to be more related to the shape than the series. I'll update when I find out more, but right now it appears that many bent Peterson pipes have a moisture trap. The true "system pipes" have a deeper trap and an army mount so you take them apart while hot.
I'll look at my Pete's some more tomorrow and report out ;-) but yes, bent Pete's (03, xl02, 221, etc) all seem to have moisture traps, regardless of the series.
To be continued ;-)

 

[lordofthepiperings]

That's interesting. I have an Aran 05, which is a bent calabash shape, and I never noticed a moisture trap in it.

 

[spartan]

I would suggest building a nice cake on a pipe that gurgles.
Once you have a nice cake on the pipe it will help absorb moisture from the smoke. Until then you should always have plenty of pipe cleaners handy because if you smoke with a lot of bravado you're going to get gurgle regardless of how dry the tobacco is.

 

[dylan793]

Rock of Cashel pipes aren't system pipes. They're one of Peterson's entry level lines. My 408 Rock of Cashel gurgles a bit as well. My pricier Peterson don't have this issue, but it also has a lot to do with how you smoke sometimes. +1 on spartan's cake comment, some cake will help manage moisture. Also +1 on Mick's moisture trap observation. My 80s seems to have this. My other bent Petes are systems though so I don't have a lot to draw from.

 

[tokerpipes]

thanks guys. i will keep packing half bowls to get the cake up. Upon inspecting it some it does have a well but its not as deap as what the diagram shows my guess is the shank drilling just went a little deeper than the specs of the pipe. it doesnt really bother me much but at times especially when driving i will get a dropplet of the condensation(wow is that gross).

 

[sirsmokesalot]

I have learned that If your pipe gurgles, Chances are you are smoking a tobacco that you just

aren't getting the flavor you're hoping for which leads to harder/faster/hotter draws to find that flavor

and thus you get gurgling. Just my thoughts.

 

[mawnansmiff]

An old post I know but concerning a problem that still affects people today, myself included.
Once I realised what was going on I soon came up with a perfect solution that works every time. Before packing the bowl, remove the stem and get a piece of kitchen roll or similar. Cut or tear a small piece of said tissue and form a small tampon about 1/3 the size of a typical cigarette filter. Using the pointy bit of your pipe tool press the tampon into the moisture trap of the bowl being careful not to restrict the airway. Once done refit the stem, load your preferred tobacco and fire up.
I have done this several times on gurgling Peterson system pipes and they gurgle no more. Do remember to remove the tampon after the smoke else it will impart a horrible stink. You will be surprised as to how much moisture it actually holds, moisture that would have otherwise caused the nuisance gurgle.
Try it, you will be glad you did.
Regards,
Jay.

 

[earthbound]

Jay, that actually sounds like a dynamite idea. My Kapp Royal collects moisture in the well but the well's bottom is close enough to the stem that I actually end up drawing it up sometimes. Maybe this would make a big difference.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

You're pipe is on the rag? Ugg, one more of many reason not to buy Petersons.

 

[mawnansmiff]

Bloody awful Cosmic :nana:
Of course I only smoke my Peterson pipes once a month ::
Regards,
Jay.