PALM pipes?

[vlodko]

These "palm pipes" are still a mistery. I obtained a few pipes from England with the palm logo on stems. There are no other stamping except the "SUPREME LONDON MADE" on the lovat. So far I didn't find any information neither on pipephil nor at other popular ressources. Does anyone has any idea regarding this brand?

 

[mso489]

Where's Mr. Holmes when we need him? That only one of the pipes is marked made in London, it may be that the pipes are sourced different places by a pipe outfit not in London or England. Otherwise, I think they'd all be stamped accordingly. The fact they aren't stamped with the information seems a little cagey. Sometimes Forums people have answers to esoteric questions. I hope so in this case.

 

[phil67]

At first I thought you were talking about some style/shape of pipe I had never heard of before!

 

[fishnbanjo]

It you got them at a good price you could call them the Five Finger Discount Pipes! if I find out anything I will post it but right now I don't have a clue.

banjo

 

[vlodko]

That only one of the pipes is marked made in London, it may be that the pipes are sourced different places by a pipe outfit not in London or England

I would agree, they can be really from different sources. The freehand one is very similar to the Karl Erik pipe in my collection, but it has the DC stem, like Charatan's. The lovat looks very English indeed, but it's definitely not a Charatan's Supreme :D The Rhodesian is very close to John Redman's pipes. The rusticated one might be an Italian, such a finish is too wild for English makers, I guess.

 

[owen]

Does the silver band offer any clues?

 

[vlodko]

Does the silver band offer any clues?

Unfortunately it doesn't. As far I could investigate the ""FC"states for fiber coating." It's a cheaper way to plate it than what they usually use, but it is still sterling silver". The 925th silver is very widely used, it's not an exotic.

 

[owen]

Can it be both plated and sterling silver?

 

[vlodko]

Can it be both plated and sterling silver?

You're right, the quotation I used sounds contradictory. I had to talk additionally to some jewelers, they said sometimes a silver item can be coated additionally (with silver of a higher purity or something like this). I don't have other proofs unfortunately. But I will do a chemical test of this ring once I return home after the next week and it will be clear then.
But the question regarding this palm logo is still a challenge.

 

[danielplainview]

Don't quote me on this but I seem to remember seeing that logo affiliated with a GBD sub brand.

 

[vlodko]

Thank you for the direction, Dave,
I'll try to look closer at GBD seconds, will update if I'll find anything.

 

[mso489]

These don't look like GDB's to me, unless they were seconded as briar, before carving. But I'm not a GDB owner. Just familiar with what I see, mostly at estate sites. Maybe the bulldog looks GDB-ish. Then again, I've seen whole lines of pipes that look different from what I've seen on the U.S. online market. Are these 9mm filter pipes or non-filter?

 

[vlodko]

I would say the same, but GBD is somethimes unpredictable All pipes are for direct smoking, without filters.

 

[bonehed]

This might be related?

 

[vlodko]

Bonehed,
thank you for this very interesting link. Of course I am not an expert in Sasieni and I am not going to claim these 4 pipes are Sasieni 2nds (3rds or 4ths ). The logo from this thread looks quite close to our case but it's not exactly the same.

Another point is that the pipe from this thread is a patent era Sasieni dated approximately by 1920-30's. The pipes shown above are hardly probably so old.
Certainly we can't exclude that someone who used this logo has modified it...

 

[vlodko]

Just an additional remark regarding this thread.
"Here's another CS&F, with a simplified Rustic look,
http://brbpipe.ru/c-s-f-oakland-sasieni-style-apple-my-own-7/"

In fact the guy who restored the pipe has rusticated it by own what follows from his text. Good job and very similar to original Sasieni.