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our_lord

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My main concern with tobacco is the polonium-210 found in most tobacco due to the radium in the fertilizer. I've been able to find cigarette brands and cigarette tobacco that are organic (Hestia and American Spirit for example), but I'm not seeing a lot of organic pipe tobacco. Does anyone have brands they recommend?
 
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our_lord

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Doesn't radium in fertilizer become radon gas as opposed to polonium 210?
There's a bunch of studies on it. There's a lot of evidence that the fertilizer is what's linked to lung cancer, not tobacco itself.
 

anotherbob

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I personally wouldn't worry to much about it. There are way worse things getting into your system on the regular just by living in this world. The facts we have is that smoking a pipe isn't that big of a contributor to mortality while cigarettes certainly are. I don't think organic pipe tobacco really has a big market value at this moment. It's already a subcategory in it's market you can only split it down so far before it's pointless from a making money off of demand standpoint. The only way to make it work is to create a product that has a wide appeal because flavor and smokeability is going to be bigger then clean process. Of course these things change. But at the moment it just doesn't have enough demand to over power the other demands pipe smokers have.
Wait till you find out about the things in organic food that come from just the simple fact it's grown in soil which has all kinds of things we aren't fans of being in our bodies.
Final point. Any pipe tobacco smoked in a pipe without intentionally inhaling is going to be less of a health risk on every single possible metric then organic cigarettes.
Your two current accessable options are smoke something like American spirits in a pipe or buy it in the form of whole leaf and blend and process it your self.
 

our_lord

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I personally wouldn't worry to much about it. There are way worse things getting into your system on the regular just by living in this world. The facts we have is that smoking a pipe isn't that big of a contributor to mortality while cigarettes certainly are. I don't think organic pipe tobacco really has a big market value at this moment. It's already a subcategory in it's market you can only split it down so far before it's pointless from a making money off of demand standpoint. The only way to make it work is to create a product that has a wide appeal because flavor and smokeability is going to be bigger then clean process. Of course these things change. But at the moment it just doesn't have enough demand to over power the other demands pipe smokers have.
Wait till you find out about the things in organic food that come from just the simple fact it's grown in soil which has all kinds of things we aren't fans of being in our bodies.
Final point. Any pipe tobacco smoked in a pipe without intentionally inhaling is going to be less of a health risk on every single possible metric then organic cigarettes.
Your two current accessable options are smoke something like American spirits in a pipe or buy it in the form of whole leaf and blend and process it your self.
Shame there's not a demand for it.
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Wait till you find out about the things in organic food that come from just the simple fact it's grown in soil which has all kinds of things we aren't fans of being in our bodies.

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Not a good reason to stop avoiding radioactive isotopes. And trust me, I'm well aware of what is in organic/non organic foods and do me best to avoid a lot of the negatives there.
I'd have no problem buying whole leaf and blending/processing myself. I actually grew some of my own tobacco and did this, but it was waaay too much work where I live without the good fertilizer. I had to move everything indoors in the cold weather, did not get a ton of product. Probably the route I'll go. Just thought there might be a decent brand out there.
And dude. Read the fucking posts. The amount of radioactivity in the lungs is significant. Not from the rocks in the soil.
This whole group seems unhelpful and wants to lecture things I did not ask.
 

anotherbob

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Shame there's not a demand for it.
Sure but it the fact is it's got to appeal beyond the labeling. You would need a lot of people to enjoy it tremendously who don't care about the label. Cigarettes are a bigger market then pipes. And a good number of people who smoke American Spirits don't care about the label that much. Plenty do.
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Wait till you find out about the things in organic food that come from just the simple fact it's grown in soil which has all kinds of things we aren't fans of being in our bodies.

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Not a good reason to stop avoiding radioactive isotopes.
Sure but that might not be as much of threat as you think it is. In cigs they can't even confirm anything more then smokers have it in their lungs. They can guess and speculate it increases death and disease but it's not proven.
And trust me, I'm well aware of what is in organic/non organic foods and do me best to avoid a lot of the negatives there.
I'd have no problem buying whole leaf and blending/processing myself.
Best option.
I actually grew some of my own tobacco and did this, but it was waaay too much work where I live without the good fertilizer. I had to move everything indoors in the cold weather, did not get a ton of product. Probably the route I'll go. Just thought there might be a decent brand out there.

And dude. Read the fucking posts.
Awesome glad that another beligernt without social skills has shown up here. Well just a heads up you probably aren't going to last long on here if you can't be nice.
The amount of radioactivity in the lungs is significant. Not from the rocks in the soil.
This whole group seems unhelpful and wants to lecture things I did not ask.
Oh I read the post and the article but it's not my fault if I have a better comprehension of health and science then you do.
Well I certainly hope you prove me wrong and are just having an off day.
 

BrightDarkEyes

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Jeremy Reeves addressed a question similar to this in one of the recent Pipes Magazine Radioshows. This radioactive issue never came up though. He said that after processing and aging that there is a minuscule amount of residual chemicals from the growing process, way less than 1% if I remember correctly. I like the way he explained things.

The only organic tobacco I can buy in Canada is a brand called CNT Organic RYO. It is a shag cut intended for cigarettes. This straight Virginia works in a pipe and tastes good and monotonous smoked slowly.

I’ve heard good things about Drum tobacco, too. But it is a fine shag cut, too, and not branded as organic as far as I know.
 

Scottmi

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Oct 15, 2022
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well...I learn something new here everyday.

"The fertilizers that tobacco farmers use to increase the size of their tobacco crops contain the naturally-occurring radionuclide radium "

"Naturally occurring radium found in the soil, rocks and from fertilizers can be taken up by the roots of the tobacco plant."

1/ is the particular fertilizer unique to tobacco growers?
2/ is the radiation uptake unique to tobacco plants?

In my part of the world we put plastic vapor barriers over the ground in the crawlspaces to mitigate radon gas as well as general moisture. I suppose our tomato plants take up radiation, too. No?
 

our_lord

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Awesome glad that another beligernt without social skills has shown up here. Well just a heads up you probably aren't going to last long on here if you can't be nice.

Oh I read the post and the article but it's not my fault if I have a better comprehension of health and science then you do.
Well I certainly hope you prove me wrong and are just having an off day.
Correct. I will not be back. Since there seems to be no way to delete the account, I have just turned off notifications. You pointed out that pipe tobacco has very limited appeal and a small market. Perhaps no-it-all bad spellers like you could be part of that. Keep continuing that trend.
 

anotherbob

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Mar 30, 2019
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well...I learn something new here everyday.

"The fertilizers that tobacco farmers use to increase the size of their tobacco crops contain the naturally-occurring radionuclide radium "

"Naturally occurring radium found in the soil, rocks and from fertilizers can be taken up by the roots of the tobacco plant."

1/ is the particular fertilizer unique to tobacco growers?
not sure but probably. Though the stuff in normal untainted soil can be pretty intense too.

2/ is the radiation uptake unique to tobacco plants?

In my part of the world we put plastic vapor barriers over the ground in the crawlspaces to mitigate radon gas as well as general moisture. I suppose our tomato plants take up radiation, too. No?
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
18,342
33,332
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Central PA a.k.a. State College
Correct. I will not be back. Since there seems to be no way to delete the account, I have just turned off notifications. You pointed out that pipe tobacco has very limited appeal and a small market. Perhaps no-it-all bad spellers like you could be part of that. Keep continuing that trend.
not going to miss you at all. I doubt you could have contributed much more. Though you do know in the real world people are far more turned off by snobbery and poor people skills then grammar.
I will give you credit for being able to read the writing on the wall and not creating extra work for the mods who can delete your account for you.
 
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