I finally broke down and placed an order for some more tools. Pimo tenon tool, Pimo tenon expander, PME banding tool, and some bands. So far I've been practicing with the tenon tool and it's quite fun and I put a band on a Jobey pipe my Grandmother gave me she found that had a cracked shank. So far I gotta say all the tools are a blast, but I think I will still use Deleon when I make my pipes. Next I gotta pick up some broken shank pipes with no stem and just go at it.