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jship079

Can't Leave
Oct 17, 2010
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I was wondering about all this talk about moister levels in the baccy. I was on the porch finishing off a bowl from last night I had to let go out it sat 12 or so hrs and it was just as good if not better than when I lit it. So my question is this had to be bone dry right after being lit then sitting over night so if I am right why is moister level so important?

 

searock

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 15, 2010
245
0
Whan a blend dries out the oils in the tobacco start to break down. The olds contain most of the flavor so you loose it... Whether it changes for better or worse is a matter of persoanl taste.

 

papipeguy

Lifer
Jul 31, 2010
15,777
40
Bethlehem, Pa.
Yours is an excellent question. Many times you'll read about guys letting stuff dry a bit before loading and lighting- particularly flakes. Craig Tarler of Cornell&Diehl used to say," Why ship water?' as his blends trend toward the drier side. So, while I'm sure there are very technical answers to your question I suppose whatever you find works for you is best.

 

glpease

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jun 17, 2010
239
96
California
This is actually more complicated than it may seem. When you are smoking, a couple of things are going on. Moisture is a byproduct of combustion, so as you're puffing away, you're actually humidifying the tobacco in the lower part of the bowl. Further, there are other distillates that will develop from volatile oils and so on that will also accumulate. Then, when you let the pipe sit, oxidation takes place, and some of these components change dramatically. So, when you re-light, you're smoking something quite different from what you left the night before. Some people love this, others don't. Some call it the "Delayed Gratification Technique (DGT)."
The flavors the second day will be much stronger, but they'll also tend to be more acrid, and possibly bitter, depending on the blend. I find that Latakia and orientals don't tolerate this very well, but virginias are more forgiving.
In any case, moisture content seems to be a personal preference. It definitely changes the way a tobacco tastes, and, of course, the way it burns. I prefer my virginias a little moister than my latakia blends, because the additional moisture enhances the sweetness of the tobacco for me, while a somewhat drier latakia blend tastes smoother. I used to smoke my latakia blends almost bone dry, but after experimenting, found that changing my smoking style a little, and keeping the tobacco a little moister, provided more flavor, more depth, and less astringency. (Ironically, the reason I started smoking it dry was to avoid that astringency. I was just over-packing and over-puffing before.)
I've talked about the moisture content of tobaccos before, and you can find more information in my column, Dust in the Wind, from a couple months back, as well as in Tobacco Reanimation in the Briar & Leaf Chronicles.
Cheers,

Greg

 

jcsnaps

Lifer
Oct 18, 2010
1,031
11
Thanks for the information, I knew something was happening to the stuff that set all night. Read Dust in the Wind, made great sense of the wet/dry tobacco picture. I appreciate the suggestions.

 

lordnoble

Lifer
Jul 13, 2010
2,677
16
glpease said: I find that Latakia and orientals don't tolerate this very well...
It's funny you say that... I found this out to my dismay a few weeks ago. I had a bowl of Villiger 1888 Mid Day, that I DGT'ed until the next night and it was extremely bitter. Not what I love about the blend at all! I think you're on to something with orientals not tolerating DGT. Thanks for the insights!
-Jason

*edit-multiple times* WTH is up with my quote?
Nevermind. I figured it out.

 

pstlpkr

Lifer
Dec 14, 2009
9,694
31
Birmingham, AL
"Delayed Gratification Technique (DGT)."
Thanks for the "analysis" Greg.

I often pack a pipe the night before, so I have one ready for the morning shave.

I don't know the particulars, but I like it.

I never consider a latakia for the DGT, must be an intuitive choice.

I will go for my Bottom of the Bag mix, or 1Q, sometimes it's Haddo's Delight.

But, never a blend with latakia. (Just never considered them.)

It's a great way to start the day, especially with a large mug of very strong Joe, and a hot brush of lather, and a new blade. When you start like that you just know it's going to be a great day.

 
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