No, smoked hotter than I thought it should, temp went up to 155, not bad, but the Ardors or the Moreittis did not do that, that being said I believe it will be a good pipe, I usually smoke carter Hall after retort so this time I smoked some Wessex Gold Brick I had prepared the day before, that being said maybe it was the tobbaco not the pipe? We"ll see, you will be pleased to know Dave Neeb is holding a Rad Davis bent apple for me, I"m getting tired of hearing Rad,Rad,Rad. LOL. The old cajun :laughat: