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brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
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Horrific Video Shows Man Sitting on Bench Watching Woman Burn to Death After He Lit Her on Fire in NYC Subway

NOBODY did anything to help, and the suspect, pictured below, walked away.

As she was engulfed in flames, the man sat calmly on a bench and watched as she died.

A transit cop walked by the open door, and seemed to pull out his radio and say something as he continued down the platform.



 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
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Don't confuse Psychopaths with humanity. The former is not part of the latter. The possible exception is if the woman was his nagging wife, then, perhaps it was warranted.
What really strikes me about it is the transit cop who just strolls by...unless there is some explanation for why he didn't even attempt to do anything...but it's hard to imagine what that would be.
 

Servant King

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The phrase "faith in" does not belong within at least seven or eight words of the word "humanity."

Just another day on Earth, I guess. But it's always been this way...I'm reminded of the inspiration for the Phil Ochs song Outside of a Small Circle of Friends, from the mid 60s or so. Although it has obviously gotten a lot worse. I blame STG for that.

p.s. didn't the Seinfeld crew get jailed for not intervening in the 1998 finale?
 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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Maintaining a reasoned balanced can be tough. Especially true when your profession has you dealing mostly with life's tragedies. I've seen the worst people can do to others. But, I've also witnessed people put themselves in harm's way to protect others. I simply expect the worst in others so, I am rarely surprised/disappointed but, sometimes ... I am richly, happily surprised. Still, I am extremely cynical about others. particularly during the initial meeting..

Oh, and I have no faith in initial media reports on any subject. If the story intrigues me, I reserve my opinion until some time has passed and facts are available, not initial and sometimes panicked observations from witnesses written by journalists, I use that term loosely these days, working under a deadline.
 
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brian64

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p.s. didn't the Seinfeld crew get jailed for not intervening in the 1998 finale?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't it seems. It's amazing how even after all these years I find nearly daily reminders of something from Seinfeld. They really covered all the bases extremely well regarding human nature in that show.

This particular incident though is not only WAY beyond what was depicted there, but is far more depraved than the typical stuff that you might expect to happen on a NY subway.
 
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brian64

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Oh, and I have no faith in initial media reports on any subject. If the story intrigues me, I reserve my opinion until some time has passed and facts are available

True in many cases...but on the other hand, there are also instances where initial reports are more accurate and the later ones are crafted to alter the facts and push a certain narrative.
 
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warren

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where initial reports are more accurate and the later ones are crafted to alter the facts and push a certain narrative.
I've found some of that with governments but, usually the media tends to print what they initially get and then print follow ups after the heat of the moment has cooled. (If there is still sufficient reader/listener interest over time.) The public, generally has a short attention span. Governments are usually "spinning" incidents.

The media, especially in this age of the internet, usually gets to the truth but, you've got to work for it, lots a information gathering, then parsing, on your part, sifting opinion and observation from facts, when facts are finally available. And many times facts take a long time to surface. I learned as a young copper to never accept the "eye witness" at face value, the mind tends to fill voids and mar the account to some extent. One needs physical evidence, unimpeachable evidence that supports observations before buying into witness observations.

We all have sources we trust more than others. Hopefully our diligence results in uncovering the real story, oft times not what we desire though.

"Critical thinking" is rapidly becoming a lost "art." Teachers and professors seem to not want students learning such.

I should add, true facts are just that! Altered facts are not not facts. Discerning the facts from the falsities, that is critical thinking.
 
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It's a dirty son of a bitch out there for sure...

The cities are the worst. I avoid them any way I can. Ocasionally I'll have to go to Atlanta, you can feel the evil in the air as you drive into the city.

In my town, if you pull over on the side of the road, 10 people will stop and ask if you need help within 2 minutes.

People are by no means naturally good, but I do think most people are doing the best they can. The situation is trending in the wrong direction, though.
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
"Critical thinking" is rapidly becoming a lost "art." Teachers and professors seem to not want students learning such.
Sadly, every word of what you just stated is true. From my experience, the institutions have confused their political thinking and agenda with being actual facts. Any thinking opposed or in opposition is considered a failing grade
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
Yea , I have no idea why the proliferation of these crime is happening .
It's a real head -scratcher ..........:rolleyes:
When I was younger, I scoffed at the idea that secular humanism was a “thing”. I was wrong. It is an ideology that places our core Id and ego at the center of all things. The idea that we are subservient to anything “higher” than ourselves leaves most humans Disconnected from a sense of a higher and more Nobel guidance. We are taught that love immenates from within us and that our own feelings are as sacred and as important - a primary source of our own truth. It all goes downhill from there.