I have to get out of NY

[lockdown199]

I never bought tobacco online I always just went to my local B+M and bought what I needed. Tonight I was on one of the local tobacconist web sites and was checking out there tins and on the top of the page in bold red letters it says if tobacco is purchased by anyone living in New York the tax is as follows 7% sales tax and a 75% tobacco tax. That's why a few billion dollars leave the state every year in retirement money. My combined school and property tax are close to 13k. I have to go.

 

[masspiper]

YIKES 75% tobacco tax. They are legal crooks IMHO!!!

 

[papipeguy]

We still have a lot of family there and it's the same story. We left NJ for Pa 22 years ago and never looked back. Property taxes are half and tobacco taxes are 6%. No state tax on retirement income and we're less than 2 hours from NYC if we choose to go there, which is infrequent.

 

[lockdown199]

I copied and pasted off the web site
!! Attention All New York State Residents !!

Tobacco on this site DOES NOT include NYS Sales or Tobacco taxes. These taxes will be added automatically to your order after checkout. To find out more about NYS Sales and Tobacco tax, please click here.
Once you click on click here you get
New York State residents are responsible for all applicable taxes, including sales tax (7.00%) and NYS Tobacco tax (75%). These amounts will be automatically added to your order after checkout. These taxes generally add an additional $6.00 for every $10.00 of tobacco products purchased.

 

[saint007]

More than just retirement money leaving the state.
Big Nanny is looking after you. :wink:

 

[dottiewarden]

Constantly rising tobacco taxes worldwide.
I’m really confused, do they want me to quit or do they want me to smoke more to help replenish government coffers?
Maybe we'll have to grow our own tobacco for personal consumption, at least until that becomes illegal too!

 

[condorlover1]

Welcome to NYC! This is why I buy my tobacco in duty free to avoid these taxes. NYC has become so anti-smoking and just about everything else that you want to move elsewhere. Add on the rents/maintenance charges and you could be paying the equivalent of a $800,000 mortgage. I am thinking seriously of moving to New Orleans as the cost of living is more acceptable without a bunch of politico's putting their hands in my wallet!

 

[novicemaker]

thats what i am saying dottie, grow our own and soon the big cheese in the tobacco industry will go and find a way to make it illegal. Did you know its not illegal to grow weed only to smoke it. my tech school has a greenhouse that has many forms of tobacco and has a weed plant.

 

[chervokas]

Yeah, so-called "sin taxes" are pretty much the only politically palatable taxes anymore, so legislatures just keep cranking 'em up, couple that with a kind of public health war on tobacco and you have the really brutal situation for tobacco sales here in NYS. It will drive tobacconists out of business here, I'm sure -- I know I never buy pipe tobacco from a B&M -- even with the cost of shipping its so much cheaper to by a big batch online and cellar it -- and now with the new tax increase I'll probably also buy all my cigars online. It's true it's going on all over the world: I think Canada just raised a federal tobacco tax by nearly 25%, I believe in the UK tobacco taxes are in the 70+% range. I don't know that I'd move out of metro NYC, where pretty much everything I like and care about culturally is available almost 24-7/365, just to avoid the tobacco taxes, especially given that I can still remote order stuff. But I do wonder how long the quality local tobacconists can survive, which will really be a loss.

 

[lockdown199]

A few years back my family bought a condo in Myrtle Beach SC so now I buy my pipe baccy from there a few times a year that I go and I go often. This last trip in April I made it to Low Country Pipe and Cigar (aka smokingpipes.com) great place if your ever in the area.

 

[macattack]

As soon as I retire I plan to GTFO!!!!!!!!!

 

[phred]

I’m really confused, do they want me to quit or do they want me to smoke more to help replenish government coffers?

The answer is "Yes". :P
I was just listening to an episode of "Freakanomics", in which they talked about anti-smoking efforts in Uruguay, which makes NY look downright idyllic...

 

[macattack]

NY won't ban tobacco. They will tax it out of existence. New York will tax themselves out of business soon enough. They are basically forcing people onto reservations to buy tobacco products, which is fine with me, But if you buy more than 3 cartons of smokes on the reservations you get arrested for possessing untaxed cigarettes. I don't smoke cigarettes but I don't think it's right that NY will place a limit on a product you buy somewhere that is a tax free zone. As far as I'm concerned, NY created this issue.

 

[condorlover1]

I loathe NYC and only stay here since my wife likes the place. I would rather live on the bloody moon than NYC!

 

[plateauguy]

Washington state tobacco tax is 95%. Does that make you feel any better?

 

[condorlover1]

Dunno. Whats the tobacco tax like on the moon?

 

[brdavidson]

Man I wish I lived in NYS/NYC. On a $10 tin of tobacco, taking exchange out of the equation, in Ontario we are paying $28 in taxes. Just some perspective for y'all.

 

[lockdown199]

br you guys do have it tuff up there money wise, I think the exchange is about even money now.

 

[lockdown199]

New York was rated the worst place to live after retiring.

 

[woodsroad]

I am thinking seriously of moving to New Orleans

Ah yes, another paragon of democracy.
Why not just get the &^%$ out of there and move to a state that doesn't suck?
I have to drive into NYC multiple times a month for work. I have to keep telling myself "Thank God I don't live here" and I find myself muttering "These poor bastards..." As I head home, crossing the Delaware River on 78, I can feel my BP drop 20 points. As I exit 78 and head off into the countryside, a soothing bliss descends upon me. My township has never had a murder. We don't have a police force, because we don't have any crime. We don't have any crime because the folks living here respect each others life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. And they keep a loaded shotgun behind the door, just in case there's a chink in the armor.