I Don't Fit In

[puffy]

When I watch old movies I see pipe smokers treated with respect.Pipe smoking in general in those days wasn't treated with comtempt as it is now.In a way it makes me wish I lived back in those days.Yet I love todays conviences such as my ability to make this post.Sometimes I think about all the contributions that pipe smokers have made to help bring these conviences to us.As well as advances in science and medicin and many other fields.These days society wants to erase the fact that these great men were pipe smokers.Here's an example of how they think.They passed smoking bans in my state.They are moving to legalize video gambling machines.You will be able to sit in a bar,drink all you want,and lose all your money,but you won't be allowed to smoke your pipe while doing so.If I could bring that old attitude about pipe smoking into todays modern world then just maybe I could feel like I fit in.

 

[unclearthur]

I know what you mean! Sometimes I wish for horse and buggy days myself.

 

[romeowood]

It's up to us to make it de rigueur again, it seems. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em, folks. :puffpipe:

 

[whitebriar]

i come from the time when Nazis were the bad guys---today they seem to be in charge--

just my opinion--i'm stickin' to it--

 

[francois1]

your comments on smoking nazies amuses me recentlty at work i said i was going outside for a few puffs of my

pipe the supervisor looked at me in disgust saying is it not better to have a drink

instead well i had my last alchol drink 7 years ago for obvious reasons i obviousely did not explain myself

but with pipe smoking i lead a better life than having a drink as i know the consequences of alchol on me

i am safer with my pipe and enjoy it better with no after effects

 

[seanz]

so your supervisor is ok with drinking at work! hmm sounds like some butchers i use to work for.. its strange for all nz anti smoking thing i havent been hassled about my pipe. And i am always in public puffing away as i walk around the town dropping my cv in to places.

 

[unclearthur]

Reminds me of the butcher Mom used to tell me about. Backed into the meat grinder and got a little behind in his work.

 

[asteroid1]

Back in the 1930s to late 1950s you may have been able to smoke in publc and even on airplanes but the downside was there where fewer quality tobaccos available compared to present day.

 

[nathaniel]

:laughat:

Backed into the meat grinder and got a little behind in his work

Oh boy, it's too early for this... it makes me spill my coffee.

 

[cortezattic]

asteroid1 makes a good point: we're in a golden age of pipes and tobaccos;

but I rue the fact that the world has evolved quite differently from what I would like.

Well, at least I have the solace of a good pipe, and of friends online who share the interest. ::

 

[mjtannen]

We fit in just fine, here, each of us all together. Other men have not discovered the pleasure or the friendship that we enjoy. Their loss but not our's. We fit in just fine indeed!

 

[locopony]

Propaganda and ignorance have made war on freedom again. As usual Freedom loses, because the fragility of her nature.
Like a neglected wife one day leaves a bewildered man, who then struggles infutility to regain what he has lost. So shall we also lament the lose of sweet freedom for our lack of attention, and willingness to make concession until neglect allows her to slip from our hands.
We don't care as they come for the things that matter not directly to us. Seatbelts, to those who rie the train, motorcycle helmets, to those who do not ride them, Tobacco to those who don't smoke, privacy to those who don't fly on planes, and prayer to those who aren't religious.

little by little they chip away in the name of health, safety, or the self rightious indignation of some pink diaper wearing spoiled brat child.

And freedom is lost.

and hate and distain for those who wish to be free replaces the will to engage in freedom ourself until all creativity all individuality is extinct. Now drab torment of the mundane gnaws at fulfillment and life fails to thrive.

 

[marmal4de]

I have found, the gov't hates my pipe smoking, but I have yet to have a single individual approach me with a pipe hanging from my jaw to offer negative feedback.

 

[cyndi]

I find that many people agree with our viewpoints on pipe smoking but lack the words to express it. We have a strong culture of counter-cultures in this world. This "war" on tobacco will end the way Prohibition did - it's impossible to enforce and in trying to enforce it, creativity and innovation abound. Flobots has a good song on the problems of race in America that I think applies to us as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6S2et3EN6A
It is a struggle and a stress, but stress and struggles move us to new and more creative solutions, some of which will surprise the hell out of us.

 

[pstlpkr]

Let's see.... 53 years old.... 5'10"/240.... Balding.... 7" Handlebar Mustache... Goatee.... Pipe Smoker....

I don't fit in... I stand out.

And, proud of it.

 

[ichbinmuede]

The government may be down on us but the public at large adores us pipe smokers.
To echo Lawrence: I don't fit in...I stand out.
I do enjoy doing it. Why just this past Friday I was sitting on the patio of a bar with a friend, a beer, and a pipe and got nothing but compliments on my own handlebar and pipe.

 

[rigmedic1]

Someone is keeping all these blenders and pipe makers in business. I would have to assume that we are not alone. No one ever has a negative word about my pipes, and I often get complimented. We need to enjoy our freedoms, and fight to keep em if necessary. Make your wishes known, and cast your votes at the polls and at the cash register.
On a different note, how many presidents in recent years were pipe smokers? After all, Kennedy liked cigars...

 

[locopony]

Bill liked cigars too, although he had an unusual way of enjoying one.

 

[lordnoble]

Bill just liked his cigars ... ehem.. flavored... :rofl:
-Jason

 

[locopony]

Cyndi, I have thought about your post alot, and have some thing to say about it that you may be able to understand and maybe not.

For other groups; smokers, homosexuals, or whoever to compare themselves to what the black community endured during slavery, and Jim crow is to fail to understand the evil perpetrated against them. Its intellectual dishonesty to say that we or they have it as bad. I would even go as far as to say its the last form of effective racism. Along with the passive use of condescension by psuedo intellectuals who disgrace them with their snotty attitudes.

Now having said this, I'm going to change gears. This song fails their own history with more intellectual dishonesty. The church song referenced was not used in any hypocritical way. It was writen and used to say that there is no room for racism in Christianity. The song was intended to teach the evil and anti Christian nature of racism.