How long are the "scents" good for?

[farmerdan]

Hi all! Newbie here. I was given a tin of Haddo's from 2001 and noticed it had zero noticeable topping, like a fresh tin does. I'm exploring Lakeland's and various scented blends, and actually like them. My questions have to do with cellaring scented blends.

1. HG bulk Lakelands - - if I jar right away, how many years would you guess before the floral fades (or is gone)? Does heating the jar to get a seal actually do more than just screwing tight?
2. Tins of St. Bruno flake (or SG Lakeland tins) - - cellar in tin, or open and then jar?
3. Different approach for pouches of St. Bruno?

Behind my questions is a desire to cellar what I like, but not so much that it loses what I like before I can get to it! Really enjoying the forum, thanks all.

 

[proteus]

I have fragrant floral tobacco from LJP that is 5 years old and nothing lost. I use a mechanical device to suck out the air from the mason jars I use. Avail on AMZ. You could try to jar your tobacco leaving lids off place tobacco filled jar into preheated oven 200F for 20 mins and then take out and close the lid immediately.

The issue with Haddo is that tobacco ferments and that creates its own fragrance which may mask other fragrances. Also with fragrance if the tin has a lot of fragrance smelling it from the tin overloads your nose and you smell nothing. I've worked in fragrance and flavoring and I know that I cannot smell fragrance straight from the bottle. I can however smell one drop of fragrance on a cloth from across the room. Try taking a bit of tobacco on a paper towel and waft it quickly by your nose. You might smell things you never used to.

 

[Ahi Ka]

As for St Bruno there currently appears to be more of the scent/sauce on the ready rubbed pouch than the tins of flake. I just sealed a bunch of pouches in Mylar.

 

[farmerdan]

I have fragrant floral tobacco from LJP that is 5 years old and nothing lost. I use a mechanical device to suck out the air from the mason jars I use. Avail on AMZ. You could try to jar your tobacco leaving lids off place tobacco filled jar into preheated oven 200F for 20 mins and then take out and close the lid immediately.

The issue with Haddo is that tobacco ferments and that creates its own fragrance which may mask other fragrances. Also with fragrance if the tin has a lot of fragrance smelling it from the tin overloads your nose and you smell nothing. I've worked in fragrance and flavoring and I know that I cannot smell fragrance straight from the bottle. I can however smell one drop of fragrance on a cloth from across the room. Try taking a bit of tobacco on a paper towel and waft it quickly by your nose. You might smell things you never used to.

Thank you for the ideas. I've read threads on here about Latakia being stable for 10 years before losing some of its essence. Obviously lots of agree/disagree about that, but wasn't sure if scents have a similar rule of thumb. Interesting to consider that the Haddo's fragrance may not have escaped, but is just masked by fermentation.

 

[anotherbob]

Hi all! Newbie here. I was given a tin of Haddo's from 2001 and noticed it had zero noticeable topping, like a fresh tin does. I'm exploring Lakeland's and various scented blends, and actually like them. My questions have to do with cellaring scented blends.

1. HG bulk Lakelands - - if I jar right away, how many years would you guess before the floral fades (or is gone)? Does heating the jar to get a seal actually do more than just screwing tight?
2. Tins of St. Bruno flake (or SG Lakeland tins) - - cellar in tin, or open and then jar?
3. Different approach for pouches of St. Bruno?

Behind my questions is a desire to cellar what I like, but not so much that it loses what I like before I can get to it! Really enjoying the forum, thanks all.

floral scents don't die. If you dry out to near dust an aro that has floral as a back note that's the part that will stay. In snuff I have had floral snuffs dry to the point the tobacco scent is gone and still get the flower smells.
Just screw the lid on heating will change the tobacco (how I don't know but why risk it).
For point 2 jar.
3 put the pouch in a jar