Help to identify and value

[zedriv]

I am thinking of purchasing this as my second pipe, but I can´t find anything about it. All I "know" is that it is probably french. But I don´t know any kind of value or brand.

 

[lawdawg]

I've seen those on ebay pretty frequently, so I doubt they are rare. Maybe it would be a good smoker, but my best judgment says that you would probably be better served by a more conventional / recently produced pipe.

 

[zedriv]

I like the kind with wind lids, what would you recommend?

 

[carolinachurchwarden]

I've run across these a time or two in my search for a pipe with a wind cap. In my search efforts the only thing I have come to find out and/or believe, is that these pipes were marked as "Bruyere Garantie", or genuine briar, I think, by companies that had deemed that particular piece of briar as a lower quality piece. They still wanted to make the pipe, but they just didn't want to stamp it with their company branding, so they became a cheaper version of what they turned out regularly. I think a lot of companies did this back in the first half of the 1900's I think. As far as value, maybe some others will chime in, but I don't think they're valued too high. Of course, value is in the eyes of the beholder. I don't think I ever saw one being sold for much more than about $50. If I saw one I really liked, however, I might pick one up, just because they look neat. Not sure how they smoke, but as long as it didn't smoke like trash, then maybe it's worth having something like it just for the different look/feel of it.
Edit: But as Lawdawg just said, you would be better off finding something more recently made, or better made than this one for a pipe you want to smoke and enjoy the tobacco with. I would probably only have something like this as more of a cool little novelty piece.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Most the German Hunter pipes like this were sold as souvenirs after WW2. They may smoke fine, but they are not serious pipes, for serious smokers. I don't recommend one of these as a second pipe, nor third. If you already had a rack of pipes, I might suggest it as merely a novelty, because I can guarantee you that it won't get smoked... very often, if at all. I have several, and they are basically something to look at. I put them in the LOTR pipes and porcelain pipes... not really meant to be smoked.

 

[zedriv]

Ofcourse I want it to smoke good, The style I like is 1800s to mid 1900s.
This is the one I use now. Swedish Dollarpipe Captain bent. I want something that looks a little more, if you know what I mean.

 

[sablebrush52]

Possibly French, more likely a German or Bavarian "Black Forest" style of pipe. The stamping translates to Guaranteed Briar. Possibly 19th century, possibly a copy of a 19th century pipe. What concerns me are the nails driven into the bowl to attach the stag. I don't know how that would affect the structural integrity of the pipe over time. It's missing the chain that was used for hanging it on a peg. I get the feeling that this was made more for decor than actual use.
As for valuation, I have no idea. You could try an eBay search like this one:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xbavarian.TRS0&_nkw=bavarian&_sacat=4118&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=10&_odkw=barling&_osacat=4118
or this one for completed sales:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/Pipes/4118/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=bavarian&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=4118&LH_Complete=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=91505-4243&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_sop=10&_dmd=1&_ipg=200&_fosrp=1
Based on the pipes that actually sold, somewhere around $10 - $20.

 

[zedriv]

What are some good (beginner) pipes that get smoked good? with a 100 USD/Euro (85 GBP) max budget
I prefer smoked before style, but I like style alot to.

 

[sablebrush52]

People tend to recommend the lower end Savinelli, Peterson and Stanwell pipes at that price point. These aren't brands that I own, with the exception of a couple of Stanwells that I really like. I've no doubt that others here will be able to offer more specific suggestions.

 

[scloyd]

What concerns me are the nails driven into the bowl to attach the stag. I don't know how that would affect the structural integrity of the pipe over time. It's missing the chain that was used for hanging it on a peg. I get the feeling that this was made more for decor than actual use.

I agree with sable. I would be worried about the nails and the integrity of the bowl. I doubt the stag medallion is original. Anyone could easily add a medallion to an old pipe for a decoration. I have a couple of dozen medallions that I've attached to my walking stick...the nails that come with the medallions are 1/2".
I'd pay a few bucks for it just to display in my smoking room.
My walking stick with medallions.

 

[scloyd]

I'm a newbie piper myself (5 months), not a lot of experience. I have two Savinelli's and I really like them. They're in my price range for a beginner.

 

[seldom]

On ebay here in Germany I frequently see this style. Try a search for "jägerpfeife" (jägerpfeife search) and also one for "gesteckpfeife" (gesteckpfeife search). Very often these receive no bids. There are times I could have one a bid with just one Euro.

Vauen makes a modern version that is a bit pricey (Vauen Enzian)

 

[scloyd]

I doubt the stag medallion is original.

Poor use of words on my part. I couldn't edit fast enough. The medallion could very well be original. Looks like a souvenir/gift shop pipe for tourists.

 

[jaytex1969]

They are neat looking pipes. My inner lazy bastard suggests that they also look like a pain in the rump to clean and maintain regularly.
I will help make Sable's prediction come true by telling you that I have been quite pleased with my Stanwell and Savinelli pipes.
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Good luck and show us your new pipe when you decide. Also, welcome to the forum!

 

[zedriv]

I will look on Stanwell and Savinelli

 

[timt]

What are some good (beginner) pipes that get smoked good? with a 100 USD/Euro (85 GBP) max budget
I prefer smoked before style, but I like style alot to.

Rossi pipes are a cheaper version of Savinelli. They come in a lot of Savinelli shapes and offer a vulcanite stem on many of them, which is something I want. Like you, I wanted to buy some cheaper pipes to start out with and so far the three I bought are still working out just fine. They run around $50.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Also, to add variety to the affordable factory pipe list, Nording pipes seem to never get many complaints, and Ropp makes a fine cheap pipe, some with natural horn stems.

 

[zedriv]

I really liked the Ropp and Nording, how well are they getting smoked?

 

[carolinachurchwarden]

My Nording smokes fantastically well. Looks nice too. Don't have a complaint at all from mine.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Greg Pease often posts pictures of his Ropps, and I have a fondness for mine too. Very light, simple designs, but yet the horn stems are elegant and durable. I have more Nordings than any other make in my collection. And, they get very good use from me. They are my go to when I can’t determine which pipe to select. However, I am not a fan of his freehands, but that is more for aesthetic reason.