Help finding more pictures of the first pipe owned by an Englishman

[nick24601]

Dunhill - Pipedia

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Found the above reading about Dunhill on pipepedia. An old black and white photo of a pipe that Sir Walter Reigh owned, that was passed down to Alfred Dunhill and displayed in his shop. I would love to see more pictures of it. Does anyone have any or know of any books with pictures of it? I know many "history of pipes" books have been done, maybe one of them has more modern photos of this peice?

Thank you.

 

[rakovsky]

Does anyone have any or know of any books with pictures of it? I know many "history of pipes" books have been done, maybe one of them has more modern photos of this peice?

Here is a link to a photo of what you are looking for:

Sir Walter Raleigh's pipe and Sherborne Castle, Dorset

Sir Walter Raleigh's pipe and Sherborne Castle, Dorset. Illustration from The Picture Magazine, June-January 1896.

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A pouch with different pipes:

Pouch has “WR 1617” and a Latin inscription: Comes meus fuit in illo miserrimo tempore (“It was my companion at that most miserable time”). It probably refers to his last and disastrous expedition in search of El Dorado, which sailed from Plymouth 12 June 1617, not his imprisonment and execution in 1618.

400th Commemoration of Sir Walter Raleigh at Westminster Abbey | FCF

Sir Walter Raleigh's 400th commemoration service at Westminster Abbey was held at St Margaret's Church in Westminster where Sir Walter Raleigh is burried.

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An old drawing of this same pouch:

Sir Walter Raleigh's smoking apparatus; Sir Walter Raleigh

One of hundreds of thousands of free digital items from The New York Public Library.

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Walter Raleigh Pipes, His Pipes Wood Print by Illustrated London News Ltd/Mar

Purchase a wood print of the drawing "Walter Raleigh Pipes, His Pipes" by Illustrated London News Ltd/Mar. All wood prints are professionally printed, packaged, and shipped within 3 - 4 business days and delivered ready-to-hang on your wall. Choose from multiple sizes and mounting options.

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It's interesting because you can compare how people were depicting objects with the way that they looked in real life.

 

[Briar Lee]

I wonder if the ancients in the Caribbean had been previously visited by the Algerians, who brought with them heather seeds, who then planted them and four centuries later fashioned them into a pipe for Sir Walter Raleigh, who before he was hung handed it from the scaffold to Bishop Andrewes, and for four more centuries generations of the Bishop’s descendants kept it pristine and venerated until on November 28, 1911 it mysteriously came into the possession of Alfred Dunhill?

That needs to be preserved beside John Henry’s Hammer and the Yocum Siver Dollar!

Museum highlights: Yocum Silver Dollar

As the legend goes the Delaware Indians were mining silver. For years, folks have circulated the Southwest Missouri legend of the Yocum...

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There are many variations of the legend of the Yocum Silver Dollar. We do know for a fact there actually was a Yocum Silver Dollar, for the coin was documented by the federal government. The mystery may be buried under Table Rock Lake. People still search for the location of where the silver mine was located.

 

[woodsroad]

Anything involving Al Dunhill is highly suspect. He was a huckster of the highest order. People are still, to this day, taken in by the name.

 

[jguss]

He was a huckster of the highest order.

You say that like it’s a bad thing. Without hucksters we’d be chafed by the burlap sacks we’re wearing, getting giardia from drinking water from the nearest river, and watching clouds drift by instead of streaming porn Downton Abbey.

 

[woodsroad]

You say that like it’s a bad thing. Without hucksters we’d be chafed by the burlap sacks we’re wearing, getting giardia from drinking water from the nearest river, and watching clouds drift by instead of streaming porn Downton Abbey.

I'm down with the sack.​

 

[Sigmund]

Thats definitely a Ropp pipe.

 

[Briar Lee]

Anything involving Al Dunhill is highly suspect. He was a huckster of the highest order. People are still, to this day, taken in by the name.

But prove that Raleigh didn’t hand that off on the scaffold to the Bishop.

Lie-to-children - Wikipedia

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[rakovsky]

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I wonder if the ancients in the Caribbean had been previously visited by the Algerians, who brought with them heather seeds, who then planted them and four centuries later fashioned them into a pipe for Sir Walter Raleigh, who before he was hung handed it from the scaffold to Bishop Andrewes, and for four more centuries generations of the Bishop’s descendants kept it pristine and venerated until on November 28, 1911 it mysteriously came into the possession of Alfred Dunhill?

Sir Walter Raleigh was beheaded.
I can't tell what that pipe is made from.
I am curious where the mouthpiece hole is that you puff through and where the chamber rim is.

 

[woodsroad]

But prove that Raleigh didn’t hand that off on the scaffold to the Bishop.

Lie-to-children - Wikipedia

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Never argue with a lawyer!
Prove to me that it WAS his pipe.
(And where is it now?)

 

[warren]

He was a huckster of the highest order

Indeed also a noted inventor of automobile accessories and dealer in fine leather goods. Quite the businessman. But, Raleigh? A tale for the masses would be my take, something to bring in the customers and sell tons of tobacco. He built the reputation of Dunhill branded pipes which lasts to this day. A salesman, par excellent. A salesman of today couldn't go far wrong emulating his style.

 

[woodsroad]

Indeed also a noted inventor of automobile accessories and dealer in fine leather goods. Quite the businessman. But, Raleigh? A tale for the masses would be my take, something to bring in the customers and sell tons of tobacco. He built the reputation of Dunhill branded pipes which lasts to this day. A salesman, par excellent. A salesman of today couldn't go far wrong emulating his style.

That run of the mill, pedestrian pipes of unknown origin continue to sell, based soley on the Dunhill marque, is amazing.

 

[georged]

That run of the mill, pedestrian pipes of unknown origin continue to sell, based soley on the Dunhill marque, is amazing.

Not unknown:

Unser Besuch bei der Dunhill Pfeifenmanufaktur in London | CIGARWORLD Blog

 

[woodsroad]

Ah ha!
Why has it been such a mystery, George? Do they make them start to finish here?

My high scool German is not up to the task. Who owns this factory?

Found it

Richemont Holdings

The company is headquartered in Westminster, City of Westminster, London. It also owns and operates a leather and smoking pipe workshop in Walthamstow. Dunhill is currently owned by Richemont Holdings (UK) Limited (formerly Vendôme Luxury Group plc) and managed by CEO ad interim Andrew Holmes.

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Alfred Dunhill Limited - Wikipedia​

 

[georged]

Ah ha!
Why has it been such a mystery, George?

I'm not sure, other than mysterious things always lead back to jpberg somehow.

 

[woodsroad]

I'm not sure, other than mysterious things always lead back to jpberg somehow.


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So, THATS what he looks like, eh?

 

[jpberg]

So, THATS what he looks like, eh?

I majored in Philosophy with a minor in Transparency.

 

[rakovsky]

That run of the mill, pedestrian pipes of unknown origin continue to sell, based soley on the Dunhill marque, is amazing.

@woodsroad
Can you please give an example of those run of the mill unknown origin Dunhill pipes that you are talking about?

 

[mingc]

Thats definitely a Ropp pipe.

It looks like a stick to me.

 

[jguss]

So, THATS what he looks like, eh?

Looks an awful lot like Claude Rains to me.