Grading a Tsuge Ikebana Pipe without marking

[Tuan Vu]

Hi,
Does anyone know how to grade of this Tsuge Ikebana Pipe? There is no marking, stamp. I have seen quite many Estate Ikebana pipes like this one but still can't not find information about this.
Thanks

 

[sablebrush52]

Maybe this will be useful:

Ts-Tz -- Pipes: Logos & Markings

www.pipephil.eu

 

[OzPiper]

Tsuge stopped grading their Ikebanas some years ago.
Tsuge obviously feel that the Ikebanas are non plus ultra and that further grading is superfluous.

 

[lukasstrifeson]

Is that their new stamp now? Never seen the Tsuge logo stamped like that before!

 

[Tuan Vu]

Is that their new stamp now? Never seen the Tsuge logo stamped like that before!

I have seen this kind of stamp few times on ikebana pipe. It is an old pipe, maybe few decade ago. I do not think it has been made recently

 

[lukasstrifeson]

I have seen this kind of stamp few times on ikebana pipe. It is an old pipe, maybe few decade ago. I do not think it has been made recently

Do you have more pictures of the pipe? It is very unusual.

I have never seen an Ikebana with that style of Tsuge logo. Plus older Ikebanas should be all graded (up until 2006/7 I think) and as far as I was aware they had always stamped the pipemaker's kanji too.

 

[Tuan Vu]

Do you have more pictures of the pipe? It is very unusual.

I have never seen an Ikebana with that style of Tsuge logo. Plus older Ikebanas should be all graded (up until 2006/7 I think) and as far as I was aware they had always stamped the pipemaker's kanji too.

Hi Lukas!
How do you grade this Ikebana Pipe?

 

[Tuan Vu]

Hi Lukas!
How do you grade this Ikebana Pipe?View attachment 179266

And this is more, the stamp is AA 4/38

 

[lukasstrifeson]

And this is more, the stamp is AA 4/38

Firstly, let me say, I don't claim any authority on identifying or grading Ikebanas. I'm just fond of their pipes and did A LOT of research before I purchased mines.

Now with that said, if I'm honest, these pictures look worse. Do you have pictures of the pipes with these stamps? Both pipes look maybe to be rusticated and I'm curious with the finish.

Going by the stamping alone, I'd recommend against purchasing those pipes..


EDIT: typo