From Man's First Moonwalk to Today...

[georged]

...has been exactly 54 years.

The same length of time it took to go from a wood-and-fabric motorized kite to the B-58 Hustler. (And five years after that, we were in space).

How far has the USA's space capability advanced in that 54 years?

Well... NASA is a bloated, inefficient mess, and we pay the Russians and assorted private outfits to lift our satellites as needed.

 

[BriarsAndBottles]

I was hoping this thread had something to do with Michael Jackson.

 

[AJL67]

One of the most iconic photos ever taken, worth finding a super high rez image and really zooming in on the face shield..

 

[AJL67]

A couple interesting things.

The only person with their name on the moon (at least last i checked) was Richard Nixon as the they left a plaque there commemorating the landing.

If you want to read a "wtf" story check out this link below. You want to know what kind of men these where this will shine some light on these men and their balls that were the size of saturn.

When Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong Were Nearly Stranded on the Moon | HISTORY

The one vital breaker needed to lift Aldrin and Neil Armstrong off the moon broke off, leaving Aldrin and Neil Armstrong scrambling to fix it.

www.history.com

There was also an unknown about the rocket motor that was to lift them off from the moon, there were only a few made, the ones that were tested all failed, the "motor" in the lander was never tested and they knew it, all of these issues and there was still ever a question if they wanted to go, they were pretty much prepared to die in space or be stuck on the moon. Nixon even had a speech written in case of disaster.

 

[RustiePyles CPG]

There is a place in the high desert outside Tremonten, Ut when you can see the "Big Cut" of the rail bed leading to the Golden Spike site while standing next to a Saturn IV rocket. It's a very interesting juxtaposition of man's greatest achievements in the last 200 years. It's at the Thiokol Rocket Garden, the place where the saturns were built. Nothing around for miles except empty desert and mountains and you can see the place where we joined our fledgling nation by rail for the first time and where we built the heavy lift motors that took us to the moon. It's pretty awe inspiring.

 

[bullet08]

Not too long ago, we had people with balls leading this country. Now, we have bunch pussies living off China, Russia, and other enemies of the state.

 

[Davy]

I was hoping this thread had something to do with Michael Jackson.

And I expected it to be about him.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Not too long ago, we had people with balls leading this country. Now, we have bunch pussies living off China, Russia, and other enemies of the state.

"It begins in California"... < sigh > Yeah, it usually does.

 

[brian64]

"It begins in California"... < sigh > Yeah, it usually does.

Be all you can be:

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Transgender soldiers in the U.S.

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[bullet08]

Be all you can be:

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Transgender soldiers in the U.S.

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But, that's not an equal treatment. What happened to being treated just like everyone else? They speak with two tongues.

 

[kcghost]

OK, George, what's got you feeling bad today?? Those were the good old days when we'd believe a politician. Any two-bit demagogue can scream any nonsense he wants and a bunch of us will believe.

 

[fireground_piper]

Thank god we stopped sending people over there. What a waste of resources long term. It’s one of those things that’s neat to do, but after a few times just send robots already.

You can get years out of a bunch of machines doing research. I don’t know why anyone would want to waste time for a launch, trip there, spend a few days on the surface, trip back…….they should just robot the hell out of it until they are actually in a position for a long time, human stay.

I don’t need to take a sub to the bottom of the ocean when a robot can tell me, yep, titanic is still there.

 

[bullet08]

Thank god we stopped sending people over there. What a waste of resources long term. It’s one of those things that’s neat to do, but after a few times just send robots already.

You can get years out of a bunch of machines doing research. I don’t know why anyone would want to waste time for a launch, trip there, spend a few days on the surface, trip back…….they should just robot the hell out of it until they are actually in a position for a long time, human stay.

I don’t need to take a sub to the bottom of the ocean when a robot can tell me, yep, titanic is still there.

True to a degree. However, the robots can't have human experience. How they felt and so on. It was dangerous, and possibility of failure was there. But, there were men willing to take the chances.

 

[Auxsender]

...has been exactly 54 years.

The same length of time it took to go from a wood-and-fabric motorized kite to the B-58 Hustler. (And five years after that, we were in space).

How far has the USA's space capability advanced in that 54 years?

Well... NASA is a bloated, inefficient mess, and we pay the Russians and assorted private outfits to lift our satellites as needed.




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How do you know NASA is a bloated, inefficient mess? I’m not saying it’s not, I’m just curious what your experience is.

 

[georged]

How do you know NASA is a bloated, inefficient mess? I’m not saying it’s not, I’m just curious what your experience is.

A close friend of mine in high school went on to become the Principal Space Flight Mission Architect at JPL for many years (NASA's biggest "customer"), we stayed in touch, and we've discussed the subject several times.

 

[mso489]

Despite those who like to disbelieve the moon landing, I considered it at the time and decided it happened. A simulation might have roughed up the video a little to make it look "real," but they couldn't have resisted fixing it up for the special moments just a little. Human nature. Whereas, it is a little rough and imperfect even when it would have made better TV if it hadn't been. So I've always said it happened. My skepticism about human nature, not any other expertise, led me to this place.

It is amazing that this much later, we have to struggle to get people to the moon. Remember the movie "2001" had us traveling between planets throughout the universe by that year. Life is short, but art is long.

 

[OverMountain]

Be all you can be:

Department of Defense Memo Says Trans Soldiers on Hormone Therapy Can Skip Deployments

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Transgender soldiers in the U.S.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

A few years ago, everyone with a non-deployable profile was getting kicked out. Problem that keeps you from going down range? Go let the VA sort you out, you were done.

Not sure how sustainable this program is, especially once there’s a change of leadership.

 

[OverMountain]

...has been exactly 54 years.

The same length of time it took to go from a wood-and-fabric motorized kite to the B-58 Hustler. (And five years after that, we were in space).

How far has the USA's space capability advanced in that 54 years?

Well... NASA is a bloated, inefficient mess, and we pay the Russians and assorted private outfits to lift our satellites as needed.




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Will be interesting to see what the future holds. If I had to bet, it would be the “democratization” of space…for the ultra wealthy.

 

[brian64]

A few years ago, everyone with a non-deployable profile was getting kicked out. Problem that keeps you from going down range? Go let the VA sort you out, you were done.

Not sure how sustainable this program is, especially once there’s a change of leadership.

Unless of course the goal is to weaken the military...then it suddenly makes perfect sense.

 

[sablebrush52]

Thank god we stopped sending people over there. What a waste of resources long term. It’s one of those things that’s neat to do, but after a few times just send robots already.

You can get years out of a bunch of machines doing research. I don’t know why anyone would want to waste time for a launch, trip there, spend a few days on the surface, trip back…….they should just robot the hell out of it until they are actually in a position for a long time, human stay.

I don’t need to take a sub to the bottom of the ocean when a robot can tell me, yep, titanic is still there.

Perhaps today we can use robots to do exploration, but there would not be the same sense of wonder.
That moon landing was a huge source of inspiration for a lot of people.
As for learning about the moon’s geological history, a robot can only do so much.
When my uncle retired, one of the astronauts he trained to collect and document samples, might have been Buz Aldrin, spoke about how Lee ran them ragged, out in the New Mexican desert. They all thought they were in peak physical condition, till they had to follow Lee, scampering up steep inclines with 80 or so pounds of equipment and samples on him, and they’d just be dying while this “old guy” wasn’t even breathing hard.
But most importantly, they learned what to look for, what mattered, to a very high degree. It required thinking to optimize the results. To engage and inspire there needs to be human passion and human engagement involved.