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Lifer
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From the halfwheel.com article linked above:

"A year ago, Susie Wiles, a longtime Trump confidant, was lobbying for Swisher. Now, she is the White House Chief of Staff. Disclosure forms say that Swisher paid Mercury Public Affairs, LLC, a lobbying firm, $30,000 for Wiles to lobby Congress on FDA regulations. While President Donald Trump is known for his aversion to alcohol and tobacco, Wiles is one of the most powerful people in Washington, D.C. It’s unclear how much Wiles influenced this decision, but Trump’s first administration included the passage of Tobacco 21, a landmark anti-tobacco law."
 

Richmond B. Funkenhouser

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From the halfwheel.com article linked above:

"A year ago, Susie Wiles, a longtime Trump confidant, was lobbying for Swisher. Now, she is the White House Chief of Staff. Disclosure forms say that Swisher paid Mercury Public Affairs, LLC, a lobbying firm, $30,000 for Wiles to lobby Congress on FDA regulations. While President Donald Trump is known for his aversion to alcohol and tobacco, Wiles is one of the most powerful people in Washington, D.C. It’s unclear how much Wiles influenced this decision, but Trump’s first administration included the passage of Tobacco 21, a landmark anti-tobacco law."

Wow. That's intresting.
 

Briarcutter

Lifer
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I was really pissed off about the menthol cigarettes. I'm a long time menthol smoker and this one was gonna hit hard.

It wouldn't have been so easy to switch over to regulars. Gotta have that refreshing cool blast to the throat.

God protected me again, and I am grateful.
Speaking of menthol, did you ever smoke a Kool non filter? When I smoked years ago I just had to try a pack. Just one pack was enough for me and I didn't regularly smoke menthols, wow,what a blast of refreshing coolness!!! They were hard to find here, I asked around and found out they were available in the inner city stores. I'm sure they don't even make them any more,size wise,looked just like a pack of Camels.
 
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Speaking of menthol, did you ever smoke a Kool non filter? When I smoked years ago I just had to try a pack. Just one pack was enough for me and I didn't regularly smoke menthols, wow,what a blast of refreshing coolness!!! They were hard to find here, I asked around and found out they were available in the inner city stores. I'm sure they don't even make them any more,Size wise,looked just like a pack of Camels.

Never had those.

I've smoked a few packs of Kools, really too much menthol for me. I was always a Newports 100's smoker.

Now that the price is so crazy, $10 a pack where I am, I smoke some called 24/7 menthol. They ain't great, but at $3 a pack I'll live with it.
 
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sardonicus87

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I was really pissed off about the menthol cigarettes. I'm a long time menthol smoker and this one was gonna hit hard.

It wouldn't have been so easy to switch over to regulars. Gotta have that refreshing cool blast to the throat.
Same, was considering if that spray stuff is any good or real, I thought I read about, some kind of spray that you can put on a regular cigarette to make it "mentholated", or something. Also was considering buying bulk of those breath strips if maybe that would work. Obviously neither option would be the same.

I can't do non-menthols.

Speaking of menthol, did you ever smoke a Kool non filter? When I smoked years ago I just had to try a pack. Just one pack was enough for me and I didn't regularly smoke menthols, wow,what a blast of refreshing coolness!!! They were hard to find here, I asked around and found out they were available in the inner city stores. I'm sure they don't even make them any more,size wise,looked just like a pack of Camels.
Kools and Camels are both produced by RJ Reynolds. I smoked Kool XLs in my early 20's, then switched to Camel Wides (menthol) not long after. Camels > Kools, the Kools are a little more "minty" of a menthol than the Camels. Camel Wides are way smoother than the regular Camels. Prior to either of those, I was making my own using Premier menthol tubes and McClintock menthol tobacco.

Never smoked anything filterless version though.
 
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Zamora

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I was really pissed off about the menthol cigarettes. I'm a long time menthol smoker and this one was gonna hit hard.

It wouldn't have been so easy to switch over to regulars. Gotta have that refreshing cool blast to the throat.

God protected me again, and I am grateful.
My dad smokes Newport and he said he'd just switch to Reds or Camels and get some of those flavoring cards off Amazon. Gotta love how the people pushing it insisted they'd be protecting minorities, do they think only white people smoked cigarettes before menthol ones came out?

According to Wikipedia the first two countries to ban menthols were Moldova and Brazil, nice to know their governments have their priorities straight
 
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sardonicus87

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I wonder if there is even any accuracy to the stereotype that menthols are predominantly smoked by black people or if black people predominantly choose menthols.

Of the black people that I have known that smoked, just as many smoked non-menthols as menthol, same goes for the white people. Same also goes for if you want to split the demographics along socio-economic lines rather than racial ones.
 
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I wonder if there is even any accuracy to the stereotype that menthols are predominantly smoked by black people or if black people predominantly choose menthols.

Of the black people that I have known that smoked, just as many smoked non-menthols as menthol, same goes for the white people. Same also goes for if you want to split the demographics along socio-economic lines rather than racial ones.
Sales figures show a strong preference, the whole reason the companies started marketing menthol brands to black audiences so heavily was because they found sales were strongest with black customers while white customers were flocking to Marlboro and Winston. Before the 50s there was no racial division in brand preference. Anecdotally I'm Latino and all the cigarette smokers in my family smoke menthols.
 

wyfbane

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I wonder if there is even any accuracy to the stereotype that menthols are predominantly smoked by black people or if black people predominantly choose menthols.

Of the black people that I have known that smoked, just as many smoked non-menthols as menthol, same goes for the white people. Same also goes for if you want to split the demographics along socio-economic lines rather than racial ones.
Not to bend the rules, but I have found that almost all divisions are socio-economic and not racial, unless one or the other party has been directly indoctrinated into hate.
 

Richmond B. Funkenhouser

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I wonder if there is even any accuracy to the stereotype that menthols are predominantly smoked by black people or if black people predominantly choose menthols.

Of the black people that I have known that smoked, just as many smoked non-menthols as menthol, same goes for the white people. Same also goes for if you want to split the demographics along socio-economic lines rather than racial ones.

The people coming up with this stuff are racists. They're obsessed with it.

I believe it's a regional thing.


Everybody I grew up with, white or black, smoked menthols.