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vosBghos

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sorry meant to put this in general pipe discussion maybe a mod could move it there
anyway it's available on Amazon prime to buy or rent
 
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I have the dvd and enjoy it. Watch it a few times per year.

Someone posted a YouTube video a couple weeks ago about mimmo and harvesting briar which I’m pretty sure was extra content from this movie. There’s more extended content on YouTube from the producer that’s equally well done with mimmo, j.Alan, and a few others that didn’t get into the final cut.
 
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vosBghos

Lifer
May 7, 2022
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I have the dvd and enjoy it. Watch it a few times per year.

Someone posted a YouTube video a couple weeks ago about mimmo and harvesting briar which I’m pretty sure was extra content from this movie. There’s more extended content on YouTube from the producer that’s equally well done with mimmo, j.Alan, and a few others that didn’t get into the final cut.

I backed FOTF for years with donations and sponsored product purchases, but after the wait and delays, I found it a bit underwhelming.
Think I'm so obsessed and I just got done reading In Search Of Pipe Dreams so to see some of these people and their workshops come to life was a real treat. But I went in with no expectations so pleasantly surprised I guess especially by some of the music and graphics some parts were like 2001 meets Melancholia :) definitely moments of "wtf am I watching?"
 

Bullmoose

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I purchased this documentary when it first came out and it was really one of mixed emotions. Overall it was very well done and the production quality was superb. I just watched it again last night and I was still left wondering what story and/or what presentation of pipe smoking was the producer trying to tell? There were so many storylines interwoven into one documentary, and as vosBghos above says, an overall air of melancholy which casts a pall over the entire hour. I mean, in such a short time-constrained documentary, what value of is it to show the sadness of Lee Erck - nearly in tears - over not having children of his own? Then there was the death of Mimmo's father, which was also quite sad. The portion with Lars Ivarsson, who at the time of filming was most certainly battling terminal cancer, reflecting on his life and speaking in a very general manner on his pipe making, left me wanting so much more.

I'm glad Father of the Flame came out - I think it's valuable work, but my opinion is that it missed the bullseye of presenting the joy of pipe smoking, its rich history the world-over, its presence in previous generations, and why it still (even more so) relevant in this present time. This isn't some hobby or passion of bygone generations, and I fear that is what many non-pipe smokings viewers could infer.

Just my 2 cents
 

rmbittner

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sorry meant to put this in general pipe discussion maybe a mod could move it there
anyway it's available on Amazon prime to buy or rent
Bought it on iTunes as soon as it became available.

I had zero expectations, and I remember enjoying it and finding it a surprisingly emotional journey. But to me it was never meant to capture the joys of pipe smoking; as its somewhat obscure title suggests, it’s really just a profile of several of those pipemakers who “father” the flame. And I’m grateful that these men were captured while they were still around.

Given the fraught nature of this project’s development, I certainly don’t expect to see a more comprehensive pipe smoking documentary produced in my lifetime. But there are still many, many stories yet to tell.
 

AroEnglish

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You can watch it for free on something called TUBI.

I watched it a few weeks back and it was ok. I mainly dealt with people, particularly Lee Von Erck, rather than getting into the details of the process.
 

hawky454

Lifer
Feb 11, 2016
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It’s Father the Flame, not Father of the Flame, just fyi. I too was a bit underwhelmed but I had high expectations because it took a very, very long time for them to release it. It’s good for what it is, I wish they would have focused more on the tobacco side of the industry though. All in all, I’m glad it was made and I bought it to support them.
 

sablebrush52

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It’s Father the Flame, not Father of the Flame, just fyi. I too was a bit underwhelmed but I had high expectations because it took a very, very long time for them to release it. It’s good for what it is, I wish they would have focused more on the tobacco side of the industry though. All in all, I’m glad it was made and I bought it to support them.
Speaking from experience, the amount of time spent mounting a production rarely equates with the quality of the result. More often it's a matter of being underfunded and so having to work on the project in bits when money can be found, and/or organizational problems.
 

hawky454

Lifer
Feb 11, 2016
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Speaking from experience, the amount of time spent mounting a production rarely equates with the quality of the result. More often it's a matter of being underfunded and so having to work on the project in bits when money can be found, and/or organizational problems.
I believe that’s exactly right, I remember hearing them talk about setbacks due to being underfunded. I think from around the time I heard about it, it took about a decade for it to finally get released. It’s very well done and think it’s worth watching at least once.