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HeadMisfit

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What tobacco blends make a tobacco considered “English”.
English as in following the English laws of pre 1850 in terms to additives?

Or this tobacco leaf must be included in the recipe? That gets you into a rabbit hole filled with demented people.

Look at the iconic English blends, then compare to the aromatics made in England pr 1990
 

HeadMisfit

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That's the way I've always looked at it.
Do you feel that means SG navy flake is really an "english blend" as its 18-20% latakia by content? Or do you also want the "somewhat mandatory" turkish leaf in as well?

Or do you say "its got rum, so its not an english"
 

Pypkė

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There are no codified style guidelines. For those of you familiar with home brewing, there is no pipe tobacco style "rules" like those created by the AHBA for beer.

That said, English blends typically have a mix of Virginias, Orientals, and Latakia. The proportions of each can vary by a lot. Other tobaccos, like Burleys and Perique can be added. The nicotine strength varies a lot. There are subgenres like Balkans and Aromatic English blends. In my opinion, an English has to have Latakia in the mix.
 

Briarcutter

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Do you feel that means SG navy flake is really an "english blend" as its 18-20% latakia by content? Or do you also want the "somewhat mandatory" turkish leaf in as well?

Or do you say "its got rum, so its not an english"
Latikia=English,to me. I just smoke tobacco and enjoy it, I don't get wrapped up in all the technicalities,been smoking a pipe too long for that😁
 

Nikolo

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English as in following the English laws of pre 1850 in terms to additives?

Or this tobacco leaf must be included in the recipe? That gets you into a rabbit hole filled with demented people.

Look at the iconic English blends, then compare to the aromatics made in
 

anotherbob

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English as in following the English laws of pre 1850 in terms to additives?

Or this tobacco leaf must be included in the recipe? That gets you into a rabbit hole filled with demented people.

Look at the iconic English blends, then compare to the aromatics made in England pr 1990
From my understanding which could be inaccurate. The term English started with the American market. It also stemmed from a misunderstanding that additives couldn't be used instead of specific additives were banned. Mainly ones that could be used to falsify the leaf origin and qualities. Some heirloom tobaccos taste of things like cherry or lemon, one of our members shared his heirloom homegrown with me and it did taste of cherries a little bit. But it's a marketing term not an official classification.
 
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punkeedo

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The language I've always used (not that I'm an expert) is that you have...

Aromatics - tobaccos with flavorings added
English - just good ol' tobacco (often with Latakia added)

The problem this presents, then, is an Straight Virginia would qualify as an English. So I'm not sure that this is fully accurate. I'd been wondering myself recently.
 
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HeadMisfit

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but ennerdale is truly english, so is erinmore. And they are not exactly "low on the flavor sauce" side of things.
 

VDL_Piper

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Latakia as the dominant was always my thoughts and it can be sweet or savoury I believe with a topping. Examples would be G. L. Pease Maltese Falcon with the Ginger topping (spice) and Peter Stokkebye's English Luxury with Vanilla topping (sweet).
 
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HeadMisfit

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Sail Green as well, its tempting.. very tempting.

But honestly, Presbyterian is an english blend but its got minimal latakia compared to a few cornell blends.
 

Briarcutter

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but ennerdale is truly english, so is erinmore. And they are not exactly "low on the flavor sauce" side of things.
Well I'd call them made in England but not "English" in sense of describing a tobacco genre. I wouldn't call Erinmore English any longer😣
 
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