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rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
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I have a beginner level question and respect your input very much.

A friend gave me a vintage tinfoil wrapped 50 gram cube of super crispy dry Captain's blend from 1974-83 made in Leningrad as a curiosity. I smoked it dry as it came. It was overly warm in my nose, overheated my briar, and burned up in about 10 minutes. Typically reviewers who try this blend say that it smokes a lot better rehydrated.

A local B & M shopkeeper told me that the ideal way to rehydrate such an old dry packet is to do it gradually over months in a glass jar using a Boveda packets or a water pillow. Does this advice sound correct to you?

I know of much faster methods like putting a shot glass of distilled water in a covered bowl with the tobacco, or putting a wet towel over a bowl with the tobacco inside.

Following the shopkeeper's advice I put 5 to 6 tablespoons of the dry blend in a 1 cup sized mason jar, filling 1/3 of the jar. Next I put in a 72% RH 8 gram Boveda pack that I got from the shopkeeper.

The 72% RH 8 gram packet was sitting in a big Boveda brand jar with other little Boveda packets and came unsealed without a plastic cover. The packet was small like the size of a sugar packet. It was thin, rubbery, and alittle flexible. According to the B & M store, the 72% RH packets are supposed to be thin like that and are only expired when they are hard and clumpy.

One pipe smoker told me that 1 tiny Boveda packet was much too small for rehydrating all 5 tablespoons of dry tobacco. He said that the dry tobacco would suck out the water from the Boveda packets and you would then need to rehydrate the exhausted Boveda packets or water pillows to rehydrate the tobacco enough.

Online information says that you should get your tobacco to a 50 to 70% RH level. One piper told me that 50% humidity worked best for his pipe blends and another one preferred 72% humidity for pipe blends. Which do you think is better?

I don't have a humidity meter but could shop around for one. I can also try estimating whether the blend gets humid enough based on looking at and touching the blend.

I have another two blue "Water Pillow" brand packets that I kept in in other jars, besides the tiny Boveda packet. Both jars ghosted the water pillows with English or Aromatic notes. Is it normal to move ghosted water pillows between jars, or will the ghosting affect the smell of the jar that you move the water pillows to?
 

huntertrw

Lifer
Jul 23, 2014
6,012
8,323
The Lower Forty of Hill Country
BingBong is correct. Water is a byproduct of combustion and even the driest of pipe-tobaccos will produce some as it burns. By proper packing you can slow the burn rate.

Manually hydrating crispy tobacco need not take months. Similar to what you describe above, I use a shallow rectangular Rubbermaid-style cake-storage container with snap-on lid. I spread the tobacco in an even layer over the bottom of the container, then scoop out a circle in the middle. In that circle I place a shallow dish of distilled water, snap-on the lid, and then leave it for 24-to-48 hours.

Voilà, your tobacco is hydrated! By varying the time the container is sealed you can, to a degree, control the amount of hydration. Note that the tobacco never contacts the distilled water.

I hope that you find this information to be helpful to you.
 

rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
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BingBong is correct. Water is a byproduct of combustion and even the driest of pipe-tobaccos will produce some as it burns. By proper packing you can slow the burn rate.

Manually hydrating crispy tobacco need not take months. Similar to what you describe above, I use a shallow rectangular Rubbermaid-style cake-storage container with snap-on lid. I spread the tobacco in an even layer over the bottom of the container, then scoop out a circle in the middle. In that circle I place a shallow dish of distilled water, snap-on the lid, and then leave it for 24-to-48 hours.

Voilà, your tobacco is hydrated! By varying the time the container is sealed you can, to a degree, control the amount of hydration. Note that the tobacco never contacts the distilled water.

I hope that you find this information to be helpful to you.
Thanks for responding. Do you think the slower method preserves the tobacco's qualities better?
 

proteus

Lifer
May 20, 2023
1,685
2,772
54
Connecticut (shade leaf tobacco country)
I've rehydrated tobacco dust with a pre sanitized very fine mist pump spray bottle of distilled water. This hand held sprayer is one of those that keeps spraying for a few seconds after you stop squeezing. Spray very lightly from height of about 3 to 4 feet. Then seal up in air tight container opening every day to air out a bit. Repeat the misting if necessary.
 

rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
171
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Boveda in a jar works well, thats what I do.
Peter,
Do you think if I had a water pillow ghosted in one jar with Englishes and moved it to another jar the smell would carry over to the other jar?
I am guessing Yes.
 

bullet08

Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
10,374
42,001
RTP, NC. USA
Cut off the amount you want to smoke. Spray with distilled water using atomizer, just once. Gently move the tobacco around. Smoke it, or dump it in a trash can.
 
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rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
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This is all very helpful. It sounds like there is alot of agreement that slowness isn't important and that you don't want to reuse ghosted water packets with other blends.

Do you think that the percent matters: 50 or 70%?
 
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rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
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No.
Moist is moist !
Pipe tobacco is best smoked on the drier side

Even cigars smoke better drier than the 62-70 percent humidity which is recommended for storage.
I routinely remove sticks from the humidor to dry them out slightly a few days before smoking
Thank you Oz!
May I ask if you recommend getting a humidity meter?
I have an idea of how moist the tobacco should be comparing it to other blends I have already, but looking and touching it doesn't seem very precise.
 

OzPiper

Lifer
Nov 30, 2020
7,066
38,485
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Sydney, Australia
Thank you Oz!
May I ask if you recommend getting a humidity meter?
I have an idea of how moist the tobacco should be comparing it to other blends I have already, but looking and touching it doesn't seem very precise.
No, I don't obsess about humidity in my pipe tobacco (I do with my cigars)
I have over 70 blends open at any one time, some for several years.
I don't hydrate my pipe tobacco, EXCEPT for semois which I store in one of my cigar humidors at @67%.
Semois comes VERY dry out of the package.

Some of my tobacco borders on crisp.
There are those that never ever dry out due to (I suspect) added PG solution.
And those that are very moist straight out of the tin.

Too dry, to me, is when a pinch of tobacco crumbles when you pick it up.
Short of that is still fine to smoke.
 

rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
171
205
No, I don't obsess about humidity in my pipe tobacco (I do with my cigars)
I have over 70 blends open at any one time, some for several years.
I don't hydrate my pipe tobacco, EXCEPT for semois which I store in one of my cigar humidors at @67%.
Semois comes VERY dry out of the package.

Some of my tobacco borders on crisp.
There are those that never ever dry out due to (I suspect) added PG solution.
And those that are very moist straight out of the tin.

Too dry, to me, is when a pinch of tobacco crumbles when you pick it up.
Short of that is still fine to smoke.
This is good to know.
 
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daveinlax

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May 5, 2009
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WISCONSIN
From my experience if the tobacco is bone dry it won’t rehydrate with a Bovida even after months. I found lightly spritzing it with water over a few days to wake it up then it will rehydrate with a Bovida over time works.