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taztime

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May 15, 2013
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LET'S DISCUSS THE DIFFERENT TOBACCO CUTS ----
There are eight basic types of cut. They are as follows:
Cake
Formed into round discs, cake tobacco is pressed into rounded molds and is generally sweet due to the honey that is added to it. The smoker must use a knife to “flake” off pieces of tobacco.
Curlies
Perhaps the most difficult cut to make, curlies are long and tube shaped pieces of tobacco that are cut into small circles.
Flake
Flake’s are essentially big blocks of tobacco that are sliced into three inch “flakes”. They require the smoker separate the flakes via a rubbing motion. There is also a large type of flake called the “6-inch Flake”. They differ from traditional flakes in the way that you would suspect: they are six inches instead of three.
Ready-Rubbed
Ready-Rubbed tobacco is the lazy man’s flake – they are the same as flakes except that the rubbing has been done for you.
Ribbon-Cut
This type of pipe tobacco comes the way you might expect it to given its name. That is, it comes in long ribbons.
Slices
These are essentially the same as flakes, with the only noticeable difference being the thickness; slices are thicker than flakes.
Shag
I could toss out an Austin Power’s joke here, but since it is not the year 1992, I’ll spare you. Shag is tobacco that has been very shredded, taking on a very fine consistency.
Twist
We spoke of the process of making Curlies. Twist is made the same way, except that instead of cutting the “curly” shapes, they cut them into one to two inch pieces instead. You do not see Twist out there that often.
These are the basic cuts, there are more out there. But this will do for now. -- taztime :puffpipe:

 

4dotsasieni

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 6, 2013
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Thank you for the definitions - very helpful! (And thanks for omitting the Austin Powers joke.)

 

barleynbaccy

Can't Leave
May 31, 2013
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Its cool to see you reference Jay. He's a down to earth guy. Thank you for taking the time to lay this all out.

 

petes03

Lifer
Jun 23, 2013
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Nice video taz! Very informative , flakes have always confounded me. I guess that's why I've always preferred ribbon and shag. I may give flakes more of a chance now! I currently only have one flake blend in my cellar, but I might add more now. Thanks.

 

wilson

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 17, 2013
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Thanks. Though I've been smoking for a long time, I'm somewhat new to flake tobaccos and have been somewhat unhappy with my packing of them.

 

cortezattic

Lifer
Nov 19, 2009
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Chicago, IL
I really enjoyed that video! It's funny how we get into habits that limit our vision: it never occurred to me that a

flake could be folded the way you did it. I'll have to try it on my next smoke.
I don't think I've ever seen a thread topic on the different cuts of tobacco, although the idea has been part and parcel

of general tobacco descriptions. Your description of cake tobacco kind of threw me. I always thought it was just a

compressed mass of rough cut or square cut leaf that breaks off into manageable chunks. I don't quite get what you were

driving at with the "round discs" idea.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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Seems like tobacco that is packaged in larger pieces, like sliced or twisted, keeps better. Maybe this

means it also ages slower, because air doesn't permeate it as readily. Is that right? I've had Orlik

Golden Sliced, and Cup O Joes #5, both in tins, and they stayed as if new for months while I smoked

them up.

 

sergemoat

Can't Leave
Oct 15, 2011
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Don't forget plugs the "brick" of tobacco that is then sliced to get flakes (Peterson's Perfect Plug, or 3p's, is one of my favorites). I've heard of twists refered to as ropes, and curlies refered to as coins as well.

 

taztime

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May 15, 2013
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HOW TO PREPARE CAKE PIPE TOBACCO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=J6e_Fqqln5w#at=41

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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If anyone is having trouble smoking their flakes, I would recommend using the cube cut method, I have found I get a nice even burn and a cool and flavorful smoke this way. I have used the fold and stuff method and while it works if done right, it is less consistent, especially for a new smoker. I still use fold and stuff when I am out an about,

 

wilson

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 17, 2013
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The Z-method video was very good. I just finished some Sunday Picnic and it worked really well for me. There may be some hope for me, yet, with flake tobacco. Thanks to taztime for posting this.

 

marlboromoro

Lurker
Jun 30, 2013
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Cheers for the definitions. I've only experienced ready rubbed and ribbon cut so far. Don't know if I can even get the other types here in Oz.

 

taztime

Might Stick Around
May 15, 2013
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TYPES OF TO TOBACCO:
Aromatic Fire-cured, it is cured by smoke from open fires. In the United States, it is grown in northern middle
Tennessee, central Kentucky and in Virginia. Fire-cured tobacco grown
In Kentucky and Tennessee are used in some chewing tobaccos, moist snuff, some cigarettes, and as a condiment in
pipe tobacco blends. Another fire-cured tobacco is Latakia and
Is produced from oriental varieties of N. Tabacum. The leaves are cured and smoked over smoldering fires of local
Hardwoods and aromatic shrubs in Cyprus and Syria.
Brightleaf tobacco, Brightleaf is commonly known as "Virginia tobacco", often regardless of which state they are
planted. Prior to the American Civil War, most tobacco grown in
The US was fire-cured dark-leaf. This type of tobacco was planted in fertile lowlands, used a robust variety of leaf, and
was either fire cured or air cured. Most Canadian
Cigarettes are made from 100% pure Virginia tobacco.
Burley tobacco, is an air-cured tobacco used primarily for cigarette production. In the U.S., burley tobacco plants are
started from palletized seeds placed in polystyrene trays
Floated on a bed of fertilized water in March or April.
Cavendish is more a process of curing and a method of cutting tobacco than a type of it. The processing and the cut
are used to bring out the natural sweet taste in the tobacco.
Cavendish can be produced out of any tobacco type but is usually one of, or a blend of Kentucky, Virginia, and Burley
and is most commonly used for pipe tobacco and cigars.
Criollo tobacco is a type of tobacco, primarily used in the making of cigars. It was, by most accounts, one of the
Original Cuban tobaccos that emerged around the time of Columbus.
Dokham, is a tobacco of Iranian origin mixed with leaves, bark, and herbs for smoking in a midwakh.
Oriental tobacco, is a sun-cured, highly aromatic, small-leafed variety (Nicotiana tabacum) that is grown in Turkey,
Greece, Bulgaria, and Macedonia. Oriental tobacco is
Frequently referred to as "Turkish tobacco", as these regions were all historically part of the Ottoman Empire. Many of
the early brands of cigarettes were made mostly or entirely
Of Oriental tobacco; today, its main use is in blends of pipe and especially cigarette tobacco (a typical American
cigarette is a blend of bright Virginia, burley and Oriental).
Perique, A farmer called Pierre Chenet is credited with first turning this local tobacco into the Perique in 1824 through
the technique of pressure-fermentation. Considered the
Truffle of pipe tobaccos, it is used as a component in many blended pipe tobaccos, but is too strong to be smoked pure.
At one time, the freshly moist Perique was also chewed,
But none is now sold for this purpose. It is typically blended with pure Virginia to lend spice, strength, and coolness to
the blend.
Shade tobacco, is cultivated in Connecticut and Massachusetts. Early Connecticut colonists acquired from the
Native Americans the habit of smoking tobacco in pipes and began
Cultivating the plant commercially, even though the Puritans referred to it as the "evil weed". The industry has
weathered some major catastrophes, including a devastating
Hailstorm in 1929, and an epidemic of brown spot fungus in 2000, but is now in danger of disappearing altogether,
Given the value of the land to real estate speculators.
White Burley, In 1865, George Webb of Brown County, Ohio planted Red Burley seeds he had purchased, and found
that a few of the seedlings had a whitish, sickly look. The
Air-cured leaf was found to be more mild than other types of tobacco.
Wild Tobacco, is native to the southwestern United States, Mexico, and parts of South America. Its botanical name
Is Nicotiana rustica.
Y1 is a strain of tobacco that was cross-bred by Brown & Williamson to obtain an unusually high nicotine content. It
became controversial in the 1990s when the United States
Food and Drug Administration (FDA) used it as evidence that tobacco companies were intentionally manipulating the
nicotine content of cigarettes.

 

padank

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Jul 20, 2013
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Thank for this thread. Very educational. I went looking for photos and found this link with many of the cuts discussed in this thread;

http://www.tobacconistuniversity.org/tobacco-college/pipe-cuts1.asp

JS

 
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