I got the fever. I bid before noticing the seller was in Asia. Sellers feedback is good. I found a blurb in a forum that said smooth finish wasn’t available in 2008. Awaiting arrival. Does this look legit?
Did I Just Buy a Fake Savinelli Pipe of the Year 2008?
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Looks real to me. Either way, it's a beautiful pipe!
If the pipe in the pictures is the exact pipe that arrives at your house, I'd be very happy. It looks 100% authentic Savinelli to me. If it IS a fake...... It's the nicest fake I've ever seen
The chance that anyone is going to go through the effort to fake a Savinelli is pretty remote.
You win the internet for the day, sir! I searched every permutation I could think of for “2008 Savinelli pipe of the year “ with no luck.
I just opened a Parker “homage” Dufold earlier this week that looks like it should cost hundreds of dollars.
It cost $25, and is branded with a Chinese brand and shipped from China. It’s not counterfeit.
But last year, I was so lucky to buy this pipe, the Serbian seller claimed was a middle 1960s SON, made by Eric Nording while he was in his first business venture with another partner.
Geez, only $30.
When you pay over $30 for a brand name on a pipe, beware.
This $30 pipe is real.
Another reason, to love Pipes by Lee.
It cost $25, and is branded with a Chinese brand and shipped from China. It’s not counterfeit.
But last year, I was so lucky to buy this pipe, the Serbian seller claimed was a middle 1960s SON, made by Eric Nording while he was in his first business venture with another partner.
Geez, only $30.
When you pay over $30 for a brand name on a pipe, beware.
This $30 pipe is real.
Another reason, to love Pipes by Lee.
There's no fake Savinellis, and no fake Savinellis like that. With a stamped plate, the autograph stem, etc... to "fake" these up, reproduce them, costs more than it's worth. What it takes to make a fake Savinelli is what it takes to make a "real" brand of your own, and given Savinelli's very reasonable price points, generally, there's just no money at all, no reason to get into forging them. Even the cheap Chinese mega-producers have figured this equation out and make pipes under their own brands at this point, and that should be proof enough!
the only real fake issue was disgruntialed Dunhill employees selling unofficial dunhills. One time fakes have happened.
And even those were made in the Dunhill factory by Dunhill employees from Dunhill materials, they are, in some senses, not "fakes". They just aren't quite real either! But no, the idea that there are master pipe forgers out there running out copies of pipes that companies like Savinelli just barely make money on is an absurd myth perpetuated in the community for I don't know what reason. And the margin is that tight in pipes. Jeantet is gone I believe, Butz-Choquin is no more. Stanwell outsourced. Brigham outsourced. It's a tight market.
The whole counterfeit thing is entertaining.
Consider, for example, that with historical paintings often the only way to distinguish fake from original is to check for the isotopes caesium 137 and strontium 90 in the paint.
Why? Because those radioactive isotopes are man-made materials found in nuclear fallout, and nothing painted before the Atomic Age contained them, while everything painted afterward did. (Microparticles got carried by high level winds to everywhere on Earth in a short time.)
It's foolproof, and standard for the spendy stuff sold at auctions like Sotheby's.
(Yes, the fakers are that good)
The fun part is it means humans can't see any difference between a painting worth a few thousand dollars and one worth tens of millions, and can't tell in any other way without resorting to lab tests.
That's a mighty expensive indulgence.
As for someone faking Savinelli pipes? Zero chance. Sas explained why.
Consider, for example, that with historical paintings often the only way to distinguish fake from original is to check for the isotopes caesium 137 and strontium 90 in the paint.
Why? Because those radioactive isotopes are man-made materials found in nuclear fallout, and nothing painted before the Atomic Age contained them, while everything painted afterward did. (Microparticles got carried by high level winds to everywhere on Earth in a short time.)
It's foolproof, and standard for the spendy stuff sold at auctions like Sotheby's.
(Yes, the fakers are that good)
The fun part is it means humans can't see any difference between a painting worth a few thousand dollars and one worth tens of millions, and can't tell in any other way without resorting to lab tests.
That's a mighty expensive indulgence.
As for someone faking Savinelli pipes? Zero chance. Sas explained why.
My first high quality pipe was a used WDC Giant Wellington I bought for $5 near Wichita Kansas in 1978. It was coated with laundry soap, from being under a table in an old gas station beside a washing machine, but it cleaned up.
The next used Wellington I bought was last year, from a seller from Germany, for $100, and it’s very nice. It has a white spot on it and it’s stamped NOT FOR SALE.
I get the best deals, sometimes.
Sometimes, I get dealt with. The stem on my white spot pipe isn’t right. They must have condemned it and shortened the stem. But it sure looks pretty, anyhow.
A really huge pipe is worth a hundred bucks, I think.
More than that, better buy from a trusted source, you know?
The next used Wellington I bought was last year, from a seller from Germany, for $100, and it’s very nice. It has a white spot on it and it’s stamped NOT FOR SALE.
I get the best deals, sometimes.
Sometimes, I get dealt with. The stem on my white spot pipe isn’t right. They must have condemned it and shortened the stem. But it sure looks pretty, anyhow.
A really huge pipe is worth a hundred bucks, I think.
More than that, better buy from a trusted source, you know?
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It arrived. A couple of stem dings. Smokes very well.
Beautiful pipe brother! Glad you are enjoying it
This thing smoked all the way to a fine ash with never the first hint of a gurgle. This may be my best smoker.
That's all that matters, congrats on the new pipe.