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anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
When I have to relight a pipe which happens about once or twice during an average smoke (or a hundred times sometimes it's a hundred times) I found if the bowl is half way if I stir the ash with the stick part of the tool and then turn the pipe over to dump the ash the relights works way better and also tastes fresher. If you use the rule of apply no pressure and stop at the moment of resistance you can dump the excess ash and have a better smoke. Oh yeah after dumping the ash I'll use the tamper bit to flatten out and even up the tobacco. Also seems to reduce the need to relight. Anyone else do something similar or have any thoughts on this.
Bonus if you are rolling cigs crumple the paper into a ball and roll it around in your palms. Pull it open and now you have a more pliant paper that will roll a better cig.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
Yes, I do this for my bigger bowls, or when I notice the flavor getting too muted.
I never thought of doing this until I saw a picture of a tool with each part labeled and the stick was called an ash stirrer (and this who time I thought it just helped with tobacco that was packed too tight. But after trying thought there have to be a few people that would find this an improvement. Also I had to find out if I was just ignorant and was like some people with their turn signals on their car just completely ignorant of a basic function.
 
I never thought of doing this until I saw a picture of a tool with each part labeled and the stick was called an ash stirrer (and this who time I thought it just helped with tobacco that was packed too tight. But after trying thought there have to be a few people that would find this an improvement. Also I had to find out if I was just ignorant and was like some people with their turn signals on their car just completely ignorant of a basic function.
Funny, we had a post years ago about the Czech tool, and the spoon was for snuff, and the stick was for opening up the draw on cigars. It wasn't really meant to be exclusive for pipes. But, then again, internet being what it is, that could have been BS also. Necessity is the mother...
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,845
31,591
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
Funny, we had a post years ago about the Czech tool, and the spoon was for snuff, and the stick was for opening up the draw on cigars. It wasn't really meant to be exclusive for pipes. But, then again, internet being what it is, that could have been BS also. Necessity is the mother...
that's funny. It's not what those parts where made for. They work for it. But not anywhere as well as the actual tools for such things do. People will believe the stupidest things if they're said with confidence.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,845
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In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
Just to be czeching, what makes you so certain they weren't? The tool has been around for centuries.
because the design is just half assed for those applications. No snuff spoon is going to be shaped like that and a cigar poker isn't going to be smooth and blunt half of the time. And yeah there is bad design but the Czech tool is simple and crude but perfectly functional as what it's designed for. Or in other words although you can use the claw of some hammers as a screwdriver you know that's not what they were thinking when making it.
 
because the design is just half assed for those applications. No snuff spoon is going to be shaped like that and a cigar poker isn't going to be smooth and blunt half of the time. And yeah there is bad design but the Czech tool is simple and crude but perfectly functional as what it's designed for. Or in other words although you can use the claw of some hammers as a screwdriver you know that's not what they were thinking when making it.
Oh, ok, I will mention that every time I see a snuffer snort from the czech tool, ha ha. Albeit, I am not surrounded by snuffers, but I have seen it used on more than one occasion. Would you mind showing me a better design? I am a dumbass, but if you have the patience... I just can't imagine a better design for either tool.

I hope you don't take me for an asshole... I'm really flexible, and would like to learn...

The cigar thing, luckily (knock on wood) I've never gotten a plugged cigar. But, if plugged... I would probably reach for something like a long narrow nail... I'm not sure what other design would work better.
 
I've just always seen the spoon on the Czech tool to be a lousy way to get the ash out of the bowl, so when I see guys using it for snuff and the post a few years ago about it being for snuff... it just made more sense. Like you said, it seemed like the spoon was like using the claw hammer as a screw driver when it comes to cleaning the ash out of the chamber.

I mean, why do we even need a spoon for that, when you can just knock the pipe against something.
 

timt

Lifer
Jul 19, 2018
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that works but not as well as a snuff or salt spoon would. Way easier to aim it.


I'm sure you're right but since it's already being used with my pipe and at hand, I make due. Plus, I already lose enough tampers etc. Didn't figure I should add to the list.
 
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Search Results - https://www.lookintheattic.com/pages/search-results-page?q=salt+spoon here is the closest thing made these days to an old school snuff spoon when snuff was king.
Wait now... pullin' a fast one... those are salt spoons, and I was perusing through them, I saw every design from round to square to some that look exactly like the spoon on a Czech tool, ha ha. Talk about using a hammer as a screw driver. puffy


I'm just bustin' chops. I could care less what someone uses for what not. But, I did find it funny. I was all, "what tool shape would better open up a cigar?" Hell, I've never seen a tool made specifically for it. Like I said, I would probably grab the longest finishing nail I could find. As for snuff spoons... I'd hate to get pulled over and searched with a sterling silver spoon in my shirt pocket. They'd be sending every grain of salt and sugar they found in my truck off to the lab, ha ha.
 

FurCoat

Lifer
Sep 21, 2020
10,249
96,602
North Carolina
When I have to relight a pipe which happens about once or twice during an average smoke (or a hundred times sometimes it's a hundred times) I found if the bowl is half way if I stir the ash with the stick part of the tool and then turn the pipe over to dump the ash the relights works way better and also tastes fresher. If you use the rule of apply no pressure and stop at the moment of resistance you can dump the excess ash and have a better smoke. Oh yeah after dumping the ash I'll use the tamper bit to flatten out and even up the tobacco. Also seems to reduce the need to relight. Anyone else do something similar or have any thoughts on this.
Bonus if you are rolling cigs crumple the paper into a ball and roll it around in your palms. Pull it open and now you have a more pliant paper that will roll a better cig.
I do the same. Other than the cigs, I quit years ago
 

workman

Lifer
Jan 5, 2018
2,794
4,230
The Faroe Islands
When I have to relight a pipe which happens about once or twice during an average smoke (or a hundred times sometimes it's a hundred times) I found if the bowl is half way if I stir the ash with the stick part of the tool and then turn the pipe over to dump the ash the relights works way better and also tastes fresher. If you use the rule of apply no pressure and stop at the moment of resistance you can dump the excess ash and have a better smoke. Oh yeah after dumping the ash I'll use the tamper bit to flatten out and even up the tobacco. Also seems to reduce the need to relight. Anyone else do something similar or have any thoughts on this.
Bonus if you are rolling cigs crumple the paper into a ball and roll it around in your palms. Pull it open and now you have a more pliant paper that will roll a better cig.
I do exactly that, except I use the snuff spoon instead of the cigar pick ?
 

STP

Lifer
Sep 8, 2020
4,298
9,892
Northeast USA
When I have to relight a pipe which happens about once or twice during an average smoke (or a hundred times sometimes it's a hundred times) I found if the bowl is half way if I stir the ash with the stick part of the tool and then turn the pipe over to dump the ash the relights works way better and also tastes fresher. If you use the rule of apply no pressure and stop at the moment of resistance you can dump the excess ash and have a better smoke. Oh yeah after dumping the ash I'll use the tamper bit to flatten out and even up the tobacco. Also seems to reduce the need to relight. Anyone else do something similar or have any thoughts on this.
Bonus if you are rolling cigs crumple the paper into a ball and roll it around in your palms. Pull it open and now you have a more pliant paper that will roll a better cig.
Good tip ?
 
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bullet08

Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
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RTP, NC. USA
No stir, no scoop. With any stick like object or that coke spoon looking thing on the end of pipe nail, just lightly nudge the edge of the ash near the chamber wall toward the center of the chamber. That loosens up the ash enough, if you up end the bowl, ash drops out of chamber. Also, it doesn't disturb the ember and you can keep on smoking.
 

lawdawg

Lifer
Aug 25, 2016
1,792
3,812
I dump the ash as well, sometimes twice, and possibly even three times in a bowl with a really big pipe.

Funny, we had a post years ago about the Czech tool, and the spoon was for snuff, and the stick was for opening up the draw on cigars. It wasn't really meant to be exclusive for pipes. But, then again, internet being what it is, that could have been BS also. Necessity is the mother...

I've heard that about the czech tool but gotta call BS. If that's a snuff spoon, it's big enough for an elephant.