Comoy Relief line of pipes?

[snagstangl]

I saw an tobacco advertising mag from the 1920's and it talked about a Comoy Relief line of pipes that sounded like a sandblasted pipes. I don't get any hits when I googled it other than the add I found it in. Has anyone seen one of these or better yet have a picture?

 

[misterlowercase]

Was it this ad?

Circa 1922:

...the same phrase turned up in 1921 too, and denoted as being new:

I'd also love to know if it was a sandblasted pipe.
I've only seen a few old blasted Comoy's with the older stampings.
One of the earliest examples I've seen,

courtesy of a Japanese pipe enthusiast blogger:

Blog entry here:

http://shuzed.blog104.fc2.com/blog-entry-64.html

...it is stamped as a Tradition.
Note the early rugby-ball stamp,

like that SuperSports you so kindly traded with me.
This one appears early too,

an Old Bruyere:

http://west55555.blog21.fc2.com/blog-entry-53.html
It would be great to know, and it is plausible that Relief indicated a blast, although there is a slight possibility it could've been rusticated -

I'm not well versed enough with the skinny on the C to say either way, but I'm glad you brought the topic up.

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[snagstangl]

https://books.google.com/books?id=jJRDAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA36&lpg=RA2-PA36&dq=comoy+relief+pipe&source=bl&ots=3W8Ae2_Ybx&sig=m_2CZO49bxc2V4-WBYV6rWNub-E&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHqYWh37PKAhXLND4KHeoBB1AQ6AEILDAC#v=onepage&q=comoy%20relief%20pipe&f=false
It says the grain is brought out in relief in a special process. This is what i was reading that raised the question.

 

[misterlowercase]

It says the grain is brought out in relief in a special process.

Good eye!

Excellent.
I would wager that the "special process" is indeed sandblasting,

I would have to get concrete info from a knowledgeable Comoy collector before I could definitively say that,

but in my mind,

this discovery of yours is a good pointer indicating that Comoy started sandblasting in 1921!
:!:

 

[ssjones]

This is very interesting. I have never encountered a Comoy's stamped "Relief Grain". Google only yielded one example, from this Worthpoint/Ebay ad. Fortunately, the pictures were still available from the 2008 ad:

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-estate-pipe-comoy-relief-grain-bent





The nomenclature is not very helpful and this pipe lacks any "C" stem logo, making a year of manufacture difficult. This is the only "Relief Grain" Comoys that I have seen.
Derek Greens "Dating a Comoy's" article has no mention of the relief Grain grade. I suspect from that in the Google document, they were referring to a process versus a grade of Comoy's.

 

[misterlowercase]

Good find Al!

:clap:
To my eye,

the example you found looks to be rusticated instead of blasted,

or possibly rusticated and blasted?
Interesting.

 

[xrundog]

Neat! I have always thought the first blasted pipes were done in the 20s. I didn't think it was that early though. Who was first? Dunhill or Comoy's?

 

[ssjones]

I say rusticated and blasted. Charatan did that as well, on some of their lower grade pipes (sometimes referred to as "Apprentice grade). Btw, Pete Siegel told me the Charatan Apprentice Grade was nonsense,so I stopped repeating it myself.

 

[misterlowercase]

Found another example, but sadly it's a tiny pic and not retrievable from any other source,

it's a Relief Grain sold by estate-pipes-belgium on ebay...

...looks very much in the early Sasieni rustication style to me.
:?:

 

[xrundog]

That one looks all rustication to me.

 

[ssjones]

Estate-Pipes_Belgium is a member here, but I can't recall his name.

 

[misterlowercase]

I was watching this old pipe and forgot to bid on it LOL

I would have been paying closer attention if it was a 20's era blasted Comoy,

but as it is,

despite the somewhat battered condition,

I think someone got a rather good deal on a rare old Comoy,

it looks like a 1910 to me?
Any thoughts?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/H-C-SMOKING-PIPE-WITH-SILVER-BAND-/321973963737?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=2Yvdh5nwLAjtR78nsY7fquvFqBs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
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[ssjones]

Ah yes, that does look like the real deal and a nice deal.

I missed a Tradition Shape 42 that went for $25 the other day...asleep at the wheel.

 

[misterlowercase]

Was anyone else watching this neat old Rattray pipe?
I even threw a bid in,

(I didn't win)

would have been more enthused if it was blasted,

but still, a very fine old pipe for a very reasonable price,

a rare old bird,

this:

UNSMOKED 1924 HALLMARKED SILVER MOUNTED PIPE THE GOWRIE CHARLES RATTRAY PERTH
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[dmcmtk]

Was anyone else watching this neat old Rattray pipe?

A friend of mine in the UK was watching it. I told him it was going to sell for higher than he was willing to bid, and it did. As I said to him in an email this morning, I knew I had heard this question before, see the thread here,
http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/vintage-bulldog-id-help-please#post-818695
The HC pipe, I would agree, 1910.

 

[misterlowercase]

I knew I had heard this question before, see the thread here,
http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/vintage-bulldog-id-help-please#post-818695

Indeed,

I think I agree with Pitchfork that it is a stamp for Ben Wade...

PS

The unsmoked BWL currently up is rather appealing because they are quite scarce,

glad it ain't blasted!
...but if it looks like it'll go for under $75,

I might just be a contender!

PS

Thanks for your confirmation in regards to the date on the HC,

you don't see those pop up very often do you?

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[snagstangl]

Off topic but other than stating "leeds" on the pipe itself are there other clues to dating from the period?

 

[misterlowercase]

I'm not very familiar with B.W.

but most of the time they do indeed say Leeds on them,

but in some cases not:
http://www.thepiperack.com/blue-chip-estate-pipe-1918-hallmarked-ben-wade-bruyere-anciene-w-amber-stem/
http://www.thepiperack.com/x-sold-blue-chip-estate-pipe-1923-hallmarked-ben-wade-county-w-amber-on-sale/
Michael Lindner does a good write up on those pipes too.
It's usually pretty obvious if it is an older piece,

the brand changed quite dramatically after the Lane purchase.
Here's an old shop display cabinet:

Here's a circa 1925 ad: