Choice of Strong or Soft Tobacco. According to Race and Culture of the Countries.BECAUSE?

[JOHN72]

It's interestings to know, why is there any choice, smoke strength, fragance, "taste". For example an Asian, Italian, or african. They identify more pleasure. With loaded with flavor, perique, black cavendish, latakia, and others prefer something sweet. I see that the asian, do you like a lot of strong. Like for example, at food. Due to its geographical area. We tend to very different tastes. I don't know if I explain myself clearly.

 

[mso489]

There are probably decided differences of preference between different regions and nations, but when pipe smokers have a choice, I think the individual differences are more exaggerated than the differences between regions and nations. I think Indonesia may buy more air cured burley than some other tobaccos because that is the most available and least expensive, but that is a matter of availability. I wonder if there is much research on this. In the U.S., aromatics (flavored) tobaccos are about 95% of the market, though there is a definite customer base for non-aromatic, mild, medium and full strength.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I have no idea about other races or cultures, but a I'm an old white guy that treks between Alabama and North Carolina weekly,and I like to smoke burleys and Virginias, non aromatic. Perique sometimes in the summer, latakia sometimes in the winter. Ohhh, and I also love me some cigar leaf blends. But, I'm not sure about other old white guys here. Lots of aromatic smokers down here also.
I've met many pipesmokers of other races and cultures, but I couldn't speak on what tobaccos they prefer.

 

[JOHN72]

Availability is a decisive factor, and native type of crop. I agree with you Mso489..........?

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[bullet08]

Yeah, it depends on individuals on granular level. But some generalization works in some cases. Maybe it's as simple as availability. Most Koreans eat rather spicy food, but there are some who won't. Generally that would indicate Koreans like spicy food. Should that be changed due to few individuals who won't eat spicy food? On the other side of the same token, very few Koreans eat dogs now days. Should that be used to say Koreans eat dogs in general? It's a rather complex question. I know some of my friends who won't touch grits and they were born in the South..

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Availability is a decisive factor, and native type of crop. I agree with you Mso489..........?

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Unfortunately and fortunately, native crops probably don't impact the market in most places. The corporate nature of tobacco killed regional sales of local leaf. Except, maybe in South America.
When I ask people in Spain or even Thailand about local tobaccos, they are either tight lipped or don't regard local tobaccos well, not enough to tell us about them. They usually talk about MacBarens or even C&D blends that they cannot get more than what is readily available to them. When really, I would rather hear about the stuff they write off as being bad or just too available for them. It's interesting to hear that someone in Thailand likes ODF, but phhht... I want to hear about the stuff I can't order from smokingpipes. It's more fascinating to hear about the exotic, not the stuff I got 20 lbs shoved into the box buried in the closet. I want to hear about the swill offered up in their area of the world. Heck, I want to try some of that.

 

[sablebrush52]

I suppose people smoke what they can get, wherever they can get it. I'd be surprised if there were strong cultural differences regarding types of preferred tobaccos, but who knows?

Still, I think it's different from, say, desserts. Indian desserts tend to be very sweet while Chinese desserts are not very sweet.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

I like sweet with some spiciness. Flavor over strength but I do like fuller bodied. I'm kind of similar with food. I like Italian and Thai food a lot.

 

[JOHN72]

The extreme climate too. In the end it's a cultural issue. Here in Spain there's a type of cigars, that's his name Caliqueño. The Caliqueño cigar is a popular handmade cigar, it is a Valencian product par excellence, made from Burley tobacco, planted and manufactured in that area. At present, its consumption extends to the entire Iberian Peninsula, but the traditionally most consuming area of this type of cigar is the Valencian Community, especially the town of Chella (Valencia) Spain, the cradle of this cigar.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

very few Koreans eat dogs now days.

A childhood friend of mine who is still living in Korea has to ride his bike half a day to visit the last remaining restaurant that serves dog. He says it's wonderful, and that is my dream... to one day visit to try dog also. But, they are succumbing to stupid American Hollywood values that says eating dog is bad, phhht... stupid.

I know some of my friends who won't touch grits and they were born in the South..

I have no fucking idea why someone wouldn't eat grits. It's corn! WTF is wrong with people. The same stupid people who say they don't like grits will buy up pounds of "polenta" because it has a fancy name, but it's fucking grits!!! Don't add sugar, only a knuckle dragging Neanderthal Cracker would add sugar. Just put a small tad of butter and serve with shrimp, seafood, steak, or porkchops. Maybe cook them with some onions and peppers. It's corn for Christ's sake!! It has just been historically processed to make it more digestible. I... I... just don't understand a moron who would say that they hate grits. I find it easier to understand why someone would hate every last Southerner on the planet before I could understand someone not liking grits. It's stupid.

 

[bullet08]

Unfortunately and fortunately, native crops probably don't impact the market in most places. The corporate nature of tobacco killed regional sales of local leaf. Except, maybe in South America.
When I ask people in Spain or even Thailand about local tobaccos, they are either tight lipped or don't regard local tobaccos well, not enough to tell us about them. They usually talk about MacBarens or even C&D blends that they cannot get more than what is readily available to them. When really, I would rather hear about the stuff they write off as being bad or just too available for them. It's interesting to hear that someone in Thailand likes ODF, but phhht... I want to hear about the stuff I can't order from smokingpipes. It's more fascinating to hear about the exotic, not the stuff I got 20 lbs shoved into the box buried in the closet. I want to hear about the swill offered up in their area of the world. Heck, I want to try some of that.

When I was still in Korea, American tobacco was considered the best. Black market was big for American tobacco.. American anything. Since my uncle was American citizen, he was a doctor and went to America soon after military service, when he visited we used to go to PX for shopping. Korean cigarettes were fine. Strong, but was good. But back then American things ruled. Fast forward 50 years, all my friends are looking for Korean cigarettes to smoke in NYC.

 

[JOHN72]

Caliqueño, Pata de Elefante, Farias or Señoritas.

Like other artisan cigars, Caliqueño is made up of three parts, each of which is made with different layers of the tobacco plant:

Tripa: it is the filling of the cigar and it is made from shredded tobacco.
Capote: first leaf that wraps and holds the casing, usually made with leaves from the middle part of the tobacco plant. Normally, like the casing, the leaf of this part comes from the tobacco plant grown in the open air.
Cape: it is the final sheet that surrounds the gut and the cape. Unlike the other parts, the tobacco plant is grown, in this case, in an enclosure covered with cloth. In this way, a greenhouse effect is achieved that causes greater leaf growth.
Caliqueño is usually a 10cm long cigar with a quite striking finish due to the irregularity, roughness and thickness of the leaf ribs, unlike other cigars, which have a smooth and clean finish. The reason for this rough appearance is due to the adaptation experienced by the tobacco plant when growing under climatic conditions that are not those of this species.

Another of the technical characteristics of this cigar is that it is a totally dry cigar, unlike those of Central America and the Caribbean, which carry a certain degree of humidity.

 

[anotherbob]

taste evolves with a person but the base is still set by early experiences. Us Americans often like things that other people find too sweet or sugary. And yet pipe tobacco preferences seems to run the gamet no matter where you go it seems all styles have some representation. Who knows.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

When I was still in Korea, American tobacco was considered the best. Black market was big for American tobacco.. American anything. Since my uncle was American citizen, he was a doctor and went to America soon after military service, when he visited we used to go to PX for shopping. Korean cigarettes were fine. Strong, but was good. But back then American things ruled. Fast forward 50 years, all my friends are looking for Korean cigarettes to smoke in NYC.

Now, I want to try Korean cigarettes and Caliqueño cigars!!!

 

[bullet08]

A childhood friend of mine who is still living in Korea has to ride his bike half a day to visit the last remaining restaurant that serves dog. He says it's wonderful, and that is my dream... to one day visit to try dog also. But, they are succumbing to stupid American Hollywood values that says eating dog is bad, phhht... stupid.


I have no fucking idea why someone wouldn't eat grits. It's corn! WTF is wrong with people. The same stupid people who say they don't like grits will buy up pounds of "polenta" because it has a fancy name, but it's fucking grits!!! Don't add sugar, only a knuckle dragging Neanderthal Cracker would add sugar. Just put a small tad of butter and serve with shrimp, seafood, steak, or porkchops. Maybe cook them with some onions and peppers. It's corn for Christ's sake!! It has just been historically processed to make it more digestible. I... I... just don't understand a moron who would say that they hate grits. I find it easier to understand why someone would hate every last Southerner on the planet before I could understand someone not liking grits. It's stupid.

Love grits. With a bit of butter, salt and pepper. Topped with few sausage links and fried eggs? Heavenly!

 

[JOHN72]

Now, I want to try Korean cigarettes and Caliqueño cigars!!!

It's a strong kick cigar................at least for me

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Love grits. With a bit of butter, salt and pepper. Topped with few sausage links and fried eggs? Heavenly!

Here, we enjoy grits with shrimp and purple hull peas for breakfast. I've always thought that this was Southern, because I grew up with beans and grits... the shrimp came later, but you won't find it on a Southern breakfast menu. My grandparents lived on pintos poured over cornbread, but is that on a southern menu?

 

[cosmicfolklore]

It's a strong kick cigar................at least for me

You are teasing me now!! So cruel... I love strong kicks!!

 

[mso489]

I'm not even native to the South (U.S.) and I immediately took to grits, with butter and/or red eye gravy. The perfect complement to eggs, fried potatoes, toast and bacon or ham. Now that's a real breakfast. No dogs, cats, horses, or hamsters for me -- out of loyalty to friends and family. I've exerted enough violence against porcine, cattle, and chickens in my time, and a rabbit and turtle or two. Goat was good until I met a kid and let him eat my necktie dandling him in my arms. I'm a complete sucker for critters. I've never met a burro I didn't like.

 

[Country Bladesmith]

My grandparents lived on pintos poured over cornbread, but is that on a southern menu?

It is at my house. ?‍