Can cold weather cause the finish to bubble?

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canvas

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Feb 13, 2016
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I am calling upon the wisdom of all you veteran pipe smokers. Can cold outside temperature cause damage to the finish of the pipe (briar pipe), after the pipe experiences a change in temperature when brought indoors?
My situation is such, I bought my second pipe a Roma from Uhle's here in Milwaukee. Later that night I went outside to smoke it in an open garage (part of my nighttime ritual where I sit and smoke while on my laptop outside for about 2 hours). Smoked it once in about 20F weather, knocked it out and put it back in my coat pocket. I later smoked two more bowls in another pipe (which has seen some abuse, though the finish is fine) and after two hours came inside, where the pipes sat until the next morning when I saw my new pipe had some bubbles on the finish. The bubbles could be nicked off with a light tap of one's nail, exposing the raw wood below.
I took the pipe back the next day and traded it in for similar one (same brand, but red stain vs the previous black one). I was told it was possible it had a bad finish. The replacement pipe sadly kept doing the same thing. I decided to just keep it and learn how to strip and rewax it as a project.
So sure, maybe it was a lesson learned or the brand, but now after one time using my newest pipe from Iwan Reis, a small Lorenzetti, I found a small finish bubble on this one too, after one smoke!!
Unlike my first pipe, which ironically was the cheapest and has all its finish, smoked waaay to hot (I was new to things and smoked it like a cigarette, even causing some burnout inside), these newer pipes I've been careful to let rest a day and not smoke too quickly are falling apart.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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Welcome to the forum canvas! Still sounds like the pipe may be getting too hot for whatever it was finished with. Varnish or shellac. Have never seen a waxed pipe bubble. If you would like to take off the remaining finish, a little acetone (nail polish remover) on a cotton ball will do the trick. Next time you smoke it, however, ocassionally touch the bowl to your cheek to see just how hot the bowl is getting. If too hot for your cheek, too hot for the finish. There are some that believe that finishes like that can also overheat the bowl by not letting the briar breath.

 

xrundog

Lifer
Oct 23, 2014
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Those read like shellacked pipes. I don't like them. Heat can cause the finish to bubble. Or it will turn dark and opaque over time. I also feel that a coating like that interferes with dissipation of heat. To me they smoke hot, wet and murky.

Some makers mix in color and lay it on thick to cover imperfections or fills. Or just to cover boring grain. Very common with lower priced pipes.

But many others have no problems with pipes like that. Some companies make pipes like this special editions with interesting names and marketing. People really go for them. So I put it down to my own preference. I prefer my briar lightly waxed.

Stripping and waxing will probably make the pipe smoke better. But it may not look so hot depending on what's under the finish.

 

clickklick

Lifer
May 5, 2014
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Shellac and varnish aren't the same. However, varnish will bubble sometimes. Any chance your pocket is damp when you put the pipe in it? I have never heard of shellac bubbling if its applied properly.

 

xrundog

Lifer
Oct 23, 2014
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Yeah, good point. I should have made a distinction between shellac and varnish. I didn't because I don't like either one and for the same reasons. I can be a picky dude.

But there are some high end carvers who use a very thin layer of shellac to accentuate grain. The pipes look nice and nobody ever complains except probably me. I have a tendency to strip the stuff off and wax it. The pipe looks a bit duller but to me it smokes better.

Varnish on the other hand is used to hide stuff. Usually in a fairly thick layer.

 

canvas

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Feb 13, 2016
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Thanks for the quick responses, they help put things into perspective.
I'm not sure what the finish is, but since both are in the $50 range, I guess it is likely they fall into the cheap pipe category.
They do get warm, even a bit hot I suppose (though nothing that would bother me to have against my cheek for 5+ seconds), so I will make an attempt to smoke them even slower (which is hard for an ex cigarette smoker).

 
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