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Effortlessdepths

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I absolutely, effing love this tobacco. I tend to smoke cigars in the warm season here in Florida (don't know why but it does seem fitting) but every year when fall rolls in I always go back to the pipe. I recall really liking the blend last season and noticed I was out, so I re-upped and I love it even better now. I dream about this stuff. Does anyone else feel this way, specifically about #1? I know cosmic loves it, but anyone else? I know not everyone likes burleys, and I personally enjoy all genres, but it is just so delicious to me...

Also I did actually have a question, besides trying to start a Burley Flake #1 Love thread -- does it age well? I've heard burleys don't benefit as much from aging though I don't know if it's true. Has anyone aged this blend and noticed a marked difference and improvement compared to fresh?
 

Effortlessdepths

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Feb 7, 2020
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Micanopy, FL
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What a convenient thread. I just scooped this out of a package.

I have to say, I've really been looking forward to trying it. I've been craving burley and am diving into the deep end with burley blends for the first time.

I'll try to crack it tonight to share my thoughts....
I don't think you will be disappointed. It was my first true Burley blend, not counting Sir Walter Raleigh which is good and reliable in it's own right. There is something about the C&D burleys that is so delicious, though I have to say that that very quality seems to also turn terribly ashy if puffed too fast, which I sometimes do because it's so good. I've tried #1, #2, And #3 and they are all good but I like #1 best. I've got some of C&D's burley coming in so I can do some blending with it. Be forewarned however, if you're used to Virginias and VaPers then you can expect a punch in the neck from this stuff nicotine-wise. For some folks a smaller bowl might be a good idea, though it tastes even better in a wide bowl. I smoke Five Brother and Picayune and to my senses the #1 is stronger. Don't forget to eat a meal beforehand too.
 
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Effortlessdepths

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from what I've heard they really should package it with all five types at a slight discount. Because they're all great. Or maybe make little tins that hold 1oz each and package that at around the price of one tin. I've only tried the #5 by the way.
That's sounds like a good idea. I seem to remember someone saying that they did something like that years ago, possibly when they first released them? Not sure. I don't usually smoke Latakia blends so I haven't tried #4, but I have been thinking about trying the #5 since it has a stronger Virginia presence and I enjoy Virginia too.
 
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That's sounds like a good idea. I seem to remember someone saying that they did something like that years ago, possibly when they first released them? Not sure. I don't usually smoke Latakia blends so I haven't tried #4, but I have been thinking about trying the #5 since it has a stronger Virginia presence and I enjoy Virginia too.
five is awesome. I jokingly call it American because it scratches a similar itch as an English but in a unique way.
 
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spicy_boiii

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So here goes my one bowl review... For what it's worth.

Pipe used - Brand new MM 5th Avenue Diplomat with included paper filter.

Drink - Big glass O' water.

Smoked on a full belly of braised short rib stew.

The smoke - C&D Burley Flake #1 dated early March of 2020. For those unaware, the components are listed as Dark Burley, Red Virginia, and Perique.

Upon opening the tin there's an overwhelming singular note of woody, leather-smelling dark Burley. It smells very dry with no casing by nose or touch. The flakes are incredible fragile, but appear the same as all other C&D flakes I've ever had.

The moisture was low so I broke up the flakes and packed up a big overflowing bowl.

This blend took to a lighter incredibly easy. Made bulk D&R look like a tin o Gawith. Little moisture, and constant puffing created that spongy expanding affect that required a good firm tamping.

A ton of smoke comes from this blend. This is not a sipping blend. It begs to be puffed hard, and that's where all the flavor is. My attempts to sip it and bring out the sweetness of the Red Virginia were fruitless - I only tasted the Virginias when I puffed it like it asked.

Initial taste was very smooth, dark, soil-like earth. There's no casing, and virtually no sweetness. It leaves the palate dry and begs to be paired with a beverage with at least some sugar. My pairing of water was not a good choice.

There's no tongue bite, but there is some acridness similar to that of a lower-priced cigar. However, only the back of my throat felt the slightest tinge of a burn, and it was minimal at that. It is smooth for a blend of this fullness.

I tried hard to pull some of the Virginia to the forefront, but there just isn't much there. I suspect that is much to do with the fact that C&D's run of that mill red virginia is not very sweet or fruity. As a side benefit, it meant that it blended seamlessly with the burley.

The perique was imperceptible except for about a ten minute period in the middle of the bowl. There it reared it spicy side - no detectable prune or fruity funk from the type of perique used.

Overall the taste is that of the earthy dark burley. And it's interesting stuff. It starts off less than medium in taste and builds to be fuller and fuller as the blend smokes on. By the end of the bowl the taste blows past the medium mark and the nicotine isn't too far behind. However, the nicotine is certainly not high nor overwhelming.

About midway through the bowl I found I was developing some palate/nasal fatigue and thought I'd cut the session short. As it turns out, the main issue I have with this blend is that, despite being a Flake, there isn't a very uniform composition of the three contributing leaves.

When the red virginia does contribute, the rays of angels shine through the clouds and dance on the tongue. Just the slight contribution of sweetness makes this blend sing earthy-nutty-cocoa-powder bread notes

Oh the BREAD. When this blend fires on all cylinders I taste more bread than I ever have, in any blend. The Burley contributes a Rye-bread earthy note, but as the bowl raced toward the finish and I lucked upon that hint of Virginia, I got the full suite of flavors. PEANUTS EARTH BREAD. Carmel? No not sweet.

SOURDOUGH. That's it.

At one point I got an amazing flavor of toasted sourdough bread with some peanut butter on top.

The bowl burned toward the end, and I could taste the dottle and shank of the Cob coming through. Time to call it quits.

The aftertaste was better than I expected, some lingering peanut and sweet earth in the throat and nose.

Throughout the bowl I was pained, in a way.

I debated with myself:

Would I like this blend better with a casing?
Or maybe with more Red Virginia? Hmmm but that would ruin the whole blend right?
Still somewhat torn.

But I'll say this, when it's firing in all cylinders, it's good. REAL good. In my experience though it was very seldom that it had it all going the right direction.

Maybe some age could pick up the Virginias and meld the flavors a bit? I don't know.

What I do know is that although I didn't immediately fall in love, I certainly will look forward to smoking the rest of the tin. It fills a void of raw full flavored earth that I crave sometimes, but when a cigar isn't the ticket.

I've been smoking burley blends on a daily basis, although many of them are not fully burley dominant (SWRA, Sutliff Field and Stream Match), with the exception of Watch City Deluxe Crumb Cut ( ?)

If all goes well (or better) with the rest of this tin of Burley Flake #1, I'll try some of the others in the series. I have a couple ounces of Chatham Manor to try for the first time as well.

Overall: A Rollercoaster of a dark burley blend. It's inconsistent, with moments of bleh, and moments of greatness. It burns, lights, and packs like a dream, and has a decent amount of Nicotine. Would be great for those wanting a fuller flavored blend without sweetness that doesn't require attention and chugs along without issue, and for those wanting some true tobacco earthy flavor.
 

Effortlessdepths

Part of the Furniture Now
Feb 7, 2020
505
1,065
Micanopy, FL
So here goes my one bowl review... For what it's worth.

Pipe used - Brand new MM 5th Avenue Diplomat with included paper filter.

Drink - Big glass O' water.

Smoked on a full belly of braised short rib stew.

The smoke - C&D Burley Flake #1 dated early March of 2020. For those unaware, the components are listed as Dark Burley, Red Virginia, and Perique.

Upon opening the tin there's an overwhelming singular note of woody, leather-smelling dark Burley. It smells very dry with no casing by nose or touch. The flakes are incredible fragile, but appear the same as all other C&D flakes I've ever had.

The moisture was low so I broke up the flakes and packed up a big overflowing bowl.

This blend took to a lighter incredibly easy. Made bulk D&R look like a tin o Gawith. Little moisture, and constant puffing created that spongy expanding affect that required a good firm tamping.

A ton of smoke comes from this blend. This is not a sipping blend. It begs to be puffed hard, and that's where all the flavor is. My attempts to sip it and bring out the sweetness of the Red Virginia were fruitless - I only tasted the Virginias when I puffed it like it asked.

Initial taste was very smooth, dark, soil-like earth. There's no casing, and virtually no sweetness. It leaves the palate dry and begs to be paired with a beverage with at least some sugar. My pairing of water was not a good choice.

There's no tongue bite, but there is some acridness similar to that of a lower-priced cigar. However, only the back of my throat felt the slightest tinge of a burn, and it was minimal at that. It is smooth for a blend of this fullness.

I tried hard to pull some of the Virginia to the forefront, but there just isn't much there. I suspect that is much to do with the fact that C&D's run of that mill red virginia is not very sweet or fruity. As a side benefit, it meant that it blended seamlessly with the burley.

The perique was imperceptible except for about a ten minute period in the middle of the bowl. There it reared it spicy side - no detectable prune or fruity funk from the type of perique used.

Overall the taste is that of the earthy dark burley. And it's interesting stuff. It starts off less than medium in taste and builds to be fuller and fuller as the blend smokes on. By the end of the bowl the taste blows past the medium mark and the nicotine isn't too far behind. However, the nicotine is certainly not high nor overwhelming.

About midway through the bowl I found I was developing some palate/nasal fatigue and thought I'd cut the session short. As it turns out, the main issue I have with this blend is that, despite being a Flake, there isn't a very uniform composition of the three contributing leaves.

When the red virginia does contribute, the rays of angels shine through the clouds and dance on the tongue. Just the slight contribution of sweetness makes this blend sing earthy-nutty-cocoa-powder bread notes

Oh the BREAD. When this blend fires on all cylinders I taste more bread than I ever have, in any blend. The Burley contributes a Rye-bread earthy note, but as the bowl raced toward the finish and I lucked upon that hint of Virginia, I got the full suite of flavors. PEANUTS EARTH BREAD. Carmel? No not sweet.

SOURDOUGH. That's it.

At one point I got an amazing flavor of toasted sourdough bread with some peanut butter on top.

The bowl burned toward the end, and I could taste the dottle and shank of the Cob coming through. Time to call it quits.

The aftertaste was better than I expected, some lingering peanut and sweet earth in the throat and nose.

Throughout the bowl I was pained, in a way.

I debated with myself:

Would I like this blend better with a casing?
Or maybe with more Red Virginia? Hmmm but that would ruin the whole blend right?
Still somewhat torn.

But I'll say this, when it's firing in all cylinders, it's good. REAL good. In my experience though it was very seldom that it had it all going the right direction.

Maybe some age could pick up the Virginias and meld the flavors a bit? I don't know.

What I do know is that although I didn't immediately fall in love, I certainly will look forward to smoking the rest of the tin. It fills a void of raw full flavored earth that I crave sometimes, but when a cigar isn't the ticket.

I've been smoking burley blends on a daily basis, although many of them are not fully burley dominant (SWRA, Sutliff Field and Stream Match), with the exception of Watch City Deluxe Crumb Cut ( ?)

If all goes well (or better) with the rest of this tin of Burley Flake #1, I'll try some of the others in the series. I have a couple ounces of Chatham Manor to try for the first time as well.

Overall: A Rollercoaster of a dark burley blend. It's inconsistent, with moments of bleh, and moments of greatness. It burns, lights, and packs like a dream, and has a decent amount of Nicotine. Would be great for those wanting a fuller flavored blend without sweetness that doesn't require attention and chugs along without issue, and for those wanting some true tobacco earthy flavor.
Great review spicy boi, you definitely know your stuff! You've convinced me to try pushing this blend a just little more again, maybe I can coax even more flavor from it without it turning ashy on me.
 
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What a convenient thread. I just scooped this out of a package.

I have to say, I've really been looking forward to trying it. I've been craving burley and am diving into the deep end with burley blends for the first time.

I'll try to crack it tonight to share my thoughts....
I reccomend a full stomach for all the Burley Flake tobaccos,but they're great smoking.
 
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