BB&s Ltd Wagner Old Baileys

[joeray]

This is my favorite pipe, it is a great smoker, give me a cool and dry smokes without any trouble when I puff it. I really want to know the story about this pipe, the nomenclature is BB&s Bailey's Old Wagner D3. Can anyone help me to date this pipe?
Sorry for the pic, i dont have any better quality.....

 

[dmcmtk]

Do you mean BB&S?

 

[joeray]

yup dmcmtk, there is written BB&S at the shank

 

[misterlowercase]

Does it say Made in England?
Some of the BB&S pipes were made in Denmark later on.
Also, the post title says Wagner Old Baileys, but the inner text says Bailey's Old Wagner,

which is it?
Maybe Wagner was a tobacconist?
Maybe it was named after the old courthouse?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Bailey
Hard to say really, especially without seeing a clear nomenclature shot, but I'd guess late 60's to mid 70's?
:?:

 

[joeray]

thank you for the link misterlowercase, the 1st nomenclature is wagner's old bailey in the bottom of the bowl, and then BB&S LTD London Made England at the middle of the bottom of the shank and the last is D3 at the edge of the bottom of the shank near the stem.

 

[joeray]

Here is the nomenclature, im really sorry i only have phone camera

 

[dmcmtk]

I think it is most likely a private label pipe (Wagner's) with a great line name (Old Baily) made by B.Barling & Sons. Late 1960's-70, best guess.

 

[misterlowercase]

-edit-

Dave beat me to it!

:D

...and I concur with his opinion.
Cool, that's good it was made in England!
I'd suspect that maybe it is a "private label" pipe made by BB&S for a tobacconist (Wagner?),

but it could also be an obscure BB&S line that I'm unfamiliar with.
The D prefix in front of the shape number makes me think the latter though, perhaps the D is an internal code meaning it was a private label pipe? Other makers used similar codes to make the distinction.
In many ways, I really find these old British tobacconist pipes to hold great interest as unique objects, usually they're a bit more scarce and harder to find, and more often than not they were made by some of the best British pipe makers...

 

[joeray]

Thank you dmcmtk, so my assumption is right, old pipes smokes better then mostly new pipes

 

[dmcmtk]

There can be some nice finds in private label pipes. Your post reminded me of a pipe I bought a few weeks ago, marked WARNER RUSTIC MADE IN ENGLAND and 13. The shape of the pipe, a small Dublin, and the shape number I knew well as the Sasieni Haselmere shape, although the pipe is sandblasted not rusticated, so, basically a private label Sasieni Windsor. It is being smoked right now!

 

[joeray]

Wow that is great, im happy to hear that, i bought this BB&S pipe only for 35us$ include shipping in to my place at Indonesia here.

May i see the picture of your pipe dmctk? :D

 

[dmcmtk]

I'm being a little lazy, pipe can be seen here,
http://pipesmokerunlimited.com/showthread.php?6282-Wagner-Rustic-a-Private-Label-Sasieni&highlight=wagner

 

[joeray]

Cant see the pics, i must join and log in first. Anyway thank you so much for help and sharing.

 

[dmcmtk]

Sorry about that, here it is,

 

[misterlowercase]

Awesome score Dave!
You have the keenest of eagle eyes!

:clap:
British private label blasts with oddball names are amongst my favorites!

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[newbroom]

I've only recently become exposed to pipes labeled as London Reject. They're stamped that way! Kind of a put off.

 

[joeray]

That is a beautiful pipe dmcmtk, i bet that pipe is a great smoker :D

 

[misterlowercase]

I've only recently become exposed to pipes labeled as London Reject. They're stamped that way! Kind of a put off.

Yeah, when I saw those for the first time I was put off too, why did they choose such a lousy word?!?!? LOL

At least they were direct and honest LOL
This thread delves a little bit into that territory...

http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/english-vs-american-pipe-smoking-history
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