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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
5,297
15,159
Humansville Missouri
Like other luxury goods, with a briar pipe if you spend double the money for a high end one, you don’t get double the quality. Instead you get a little better for a whole lot more cost.

Every briar pipe from a Dr. Grabow to a Dunhill is essentially the same product, a piece of artfully carved briar attached to a hard rubber stem.

Extra cost comes according to extra finish and larger size, and figure of the wood.

The NOT FOR SALE White Spot was $100, the Tilshead $75, and the Three Star 5 pointed star era Lee $35. All three are bargain high end pipes. No pipe could be given a higher finish, and any extra figure in the briar would come at a frightful increase in price. The White Spot is the largest, the Lee the smallest, and all three are like smoking a piece of jewelry, in owner satisfaction and pride of ownership.

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High end pipes are worth the extra cost.

I’m just too cheap to pay much more than $30 for better toys.:)
 

cosmicfolklore

Moderator
Staff member
Aug 9, 2013
35,682
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Between the Heart of Alabama and Hot Springs NC
When I buy, what I consider, a high end pipe, I am buying artistry and aesthetics. The very idea of a bargain disgusts me. But, you do you.

Some, when they buy a higher priced factory pipe, are buying a brand, or a notion that they are getting a piece of history... or they have their own reasons for this or that. Not my place to question. puffy
 

cosmicfolklore

Moderator
Staff member
Aug 9, 2013
35,682
83,713
Between the Heart of Alabama and Hot Springs NC
Why do some people like blue instead of red? Why do some people prefer to wear blue jeans, and some find them too working class? Some people like to find sales and discounts, and some of us don't want to live like a poor person. Being poor is fine. I have nothing against them. If a poor person offers me something I want, I hope they appreciate that I do not try to barter or discount them.
Why do some people take every little thing someone posts on here too seriously? puffy
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
5,297
15,159
Humansville Missouri
A good test of a high end pipe is to disregard all brand markings.

Does it look, well made and expensive?

Are there any obvious uses of putty to fill holes?

Aside from symmetry, does every bit of the stummel have grain coverage?

Is the pipe perfectly constructed?

All three of these pipes are top shelf.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,518
52,608
Southern Oregon
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The thing about discussions around "high end" pipes here is that everybody talks about the wood and almost nobody talks about the stem work, which for me indicates that the level of discussion isn't terribly knowledgeable. There's a hell of a lot more effort that goes into the hand carving of a stem and button, executing the transition from the airway into the slot, than is involved in the stummel. That "magic inch" is the point of contact, and that contact greatly affects one's smoking experience. And yet, that's almost never a part of the discussion.
Any slack jawed, drooling, knuckle dragging troglodyte can belch out "Niiiicce grraaaaaaain!" It's not illuminating.
 

gervais

Lifer
Sep 4, 2019
2,237
8,037
40
Ontario
The thing about discussions around "high end" pipes here is that everybody talks about the wood and almost nobody talks about the stem work, which for me indicates that the level of discussion isn't terribly knowledgeable. There's a hell of a lot more effort that goes into the hand carving of a stem and button, executing the transition from the airway into the slot, than is involved in the stummel. That "magic inch" is the point of contact, and that contact greatly affects one's smoking experience. And yet, that's almost never a part of the discussion.
Any slack jawed, drooling, knuckle dragging troglodyte can belch out "Niiiicce grraaaaaaain!" It's not illuminating.
That's fair, but if it isn't pretty to look at, I don't want to smoke the ugly thing, lol. If I can blow air into one end and it comes out the other, chances are it'll smoke just fine, in my experience. Then again, I may be one of those slack jawed, drooling, knuckle dragging troglodytes. LOL.
 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
20,248
57,313
67
Sarasota Florida
I am very picky about my stems and only have one artisan pipe that is not made from vulcanite and it is a Michael Butera and the design and bend to the pipe makes it smoke pretty darn good for acrylic.

One of the reasons I own mostly Rad Davis and Jack Howell pipes is because of their stem work. They only used high quality German vulcanite which is soft to my teeth and is also easy to keep from getting oxidized with a little Obidisian stem oil. All of the rest of my artisan made pipes have well made stems from the German vulcanite. When I did my big culling only the best stems stayed in my collection.

Jesse is right that stem work is not discussed as much as it probably should be.
 
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alaskanpiper

Enabler in Chief
May 23, 2019
9,449
44,128
Alaska
The thing about discussions around "high end" pipes here is that everybody talks about the wood and almost nobody talks about the stem work, which for me indicates that the level of discussion isn't terribly knowledgeable. There's a hell of a lot more effort that goes into the hand carving of a stem and button, executing the transition from the airway into the slot, than is involved in the stummel. That "magic inch" is the point of contact, and that contact greatly affects one's smoking experience. And yet, that's almost never a part of the discussion.
Any slack jawed, drooling, knuckle dragging troglodyte can belch out "Niiiicce grraaaaaaain!" It's not illuminating.
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anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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The thing about discussions around "high end" pipes here is that everybody talks about the wood and almost nobody talks about the stem work, which for me indicates that the level of discussion isn't terribly knowledgeable. There's a hell of a lot more effort that goes into the hand carving of a stem and button, executing the transition from the airway into the slot, than is involved in the stummel. That "magic inch" is the point of contact, and that contact greatly affects one's smoking experience. And yet, that's almost never a part of the discussion.
Any slack jawed, drooling, knuckle dragging troglodyte can belch out "Niiiicce grraaaaaaain!" It's not illuminating.
but that's not so easy to see in the pretty pictures. It's harder to sell that. Since it's in the I'll have to take your word for it. I.e. the stem internals are great, well can't really see them in action without smoking the thing.