I just realized that listening to pipe smokers talk about their virgin and near virgin moments are more interesting than cig or cigar smokers. If for no reason then the infinite (nearly) combinations of virgin tobacco and virgin pipe. Right out of the gate already more interesting. Cigs and Cigars only have brands and often times people say it was some cig are what ever brand that chick I had that crush was smoking. Just another little thought about our lifestyle hobby addiction thing.