Pipe Abuse - Wicked Are the Ways of Men

[JoburgB2]

Anything is possible !
Philip Morris has announced it is getting out of tobacco

I’m not sure if it is a definite corporate strategy to withdraw completely or just making the right noises to placate the rabid anti-smoking brigade.
Maybe they have plans to get into the lucrative vape market

I personally dislike cigarettes, but it is a sad day when one of the largest tobacco companies in the world makes a decision like this.
We have to fear for the existence of our niche pipe tobacco segment

I’m not so sure about PMI “getting out of tobacco“. They are however moving towards smoke-free tobacco alternatives. For a couple years now they have been hiring workers (operators, technicians, QA, even regulatory types) for their new tobacco processing facility in Wilson, North Carolina, 45 miles east of Raleigh. A large investment. The plant produces a tobacco-like plug that inserts into the IQOS device to be heated, but not burned/combusted. Actually, IQOS is now larger than Marlboro. And they are adamant that this is NOT a chemical vape, it is tobacco. They have submitted information to the US FDA as a smoke-free alternative to cigarettes that is safer, but not risk free. Imagine that, a tobacco corporation working WITH the FDA? The subsidiary or division? that manufactures these products is Triaga. So it seems that they are not getting out of tobacco but are trying to move away from smoke and “end the sale of cigarettes“. And, apologies telescopes for deviating from the subject of your post!

 

[Bwana Kiko]

I know I shouldn't confess the sins of others, but this one haunts me....

I once had a smoke with an esteemed older vicar in Nairobi, Kenya -- he got out his pipe and I got out mine and he offered me a pouch of aromatic tobacco. It was dim. I couldn't see well. I dipped in, and filled my pipe. We shared robust conversation and I finished my pipe with little attention to it. His went out early.

Then...


... Sorry, this is really hard for me to say... Give me a minute.


ok...

Then, he opened up the pouch... and dumped the ashes and unsmoked tobacco and cleaned the dottle with his pipe tool... back into the pouch.


I have not talked to my therapist about this. You are the first people I have ever told.

Wickedness or ignorance? The Lord is judge. May he show mercy.

 

[JoburgB2]

I’m not so sure about PMI “getting out of tobacco“. They are however moving towards smoke-free tobacco alternatives. For a couple years now they have been hiring workers (operators, technicians, QA, even regulatory types) for their new tobacco processing facility in Wilson, North Carolina, 45 miles east of Raleigh. A large investment. The plant produces a tobacco-like plug that inserts into the IQOS device to be heated, but not burned/combusted. Actually, IQOS is now larger than Marlboro. And they are adamant that this is NOT a chemical vape, it is tobacco. They have submitted information to the US FDA as a smoke-free alternative to cigarettes that is safer, but not risk free. Imagine that, a tobacco corporation working WITH the FDA? The subsidiary or division? that manufactures these products is Triaga. So it seems that they are not getting out of tobacco but are trying to move away from smoke and “end the sale of cigarettes“. And, apologies telescopes for deviating from the subject of your post!

Let me add this additional link, with a contrary viewpoint about Triaga’s IQOS.

 

[OzPiper]

I’m not so sure about PMI “getting out of tobacco“. They are however moving towards smoke-free tobacco alternatives. For a couple years now they have been hiring workers (operators, technicians, QA, even regulatory types) for their new tobacco processing facility in Wilson, North Carolina, 45 miles east of Raleigh. A large investment. The plant produces a tobacco-like plug that inserts into the IQOS device to be heated, but not burned/combusted. Actually, IQOS is now larger than Marlboro. And they are adamant that this is NOT a chemical vape, it is tobacco. They have submitted information to the US FDA as a smoke-free alternative to cigarettes that is safer, but not risk free. Imagine that, a tobacco corporation working WITH the FDA? The subsidiary or division? that manufactures these products is Triaga. So it seems that they are not getting out of tobacco but are trying to move away from smoke and “end the sale of cigarettes“. And, apologies telescopes for deviating from the subject of your post!

I actually saw someone “smoking” one of those a couple of days ago and had to ask him what it was and how it worked.

BUT Is a smokeless “smoke” still a smoke

 

[JoburgB2]

I actually saw someone “smoking” one of those a couple of days ago and had to ask him what it was and how it worked.

BUT Is a smokeless “smoke” still a smoke

It’s all smoke and mirrors.

 

[bluegrassbrian]

I ain't no saint. I've done some things - some bad things. And while I can only pray fervently that I will be forgiven for the choices I freely made, there are some things, some wicked things, that just don't make sense.

I've abused a few of my pipes. Some were very good pipes that deserved better treatment than I gave them. Some were on the wrong end of my carelessness.

As a substitute teacher when I was 22 years old, I would take my pipes to the shop room and buff them on the high speed buffers. I marred a good many pipes. Others, I would tap the bowl on the side of the car as I cruised down the road only to see them slip out of my hand and onto the road where they quickly disintegrated into a mess of splinters. A few others were smoked in gale force winds and all suffered serious burnouts in the bowl. My calabash went uncleaned for nearly 10 years.

These were all good pipes and they deserved better.

I could go on. But I won't

The worst was taking my prized Dunhill and filling the bowl with Salvia Divinorum and scorching the rim with a blow torch lighter. Not once, but quite a few times. Yes, I learned more about the universe in five minutes time than a doctoral course in quantum mechanics could teach me in 20 years. Still, it took forever to restore that pipe and get rid of some fairly strong ghosting.

I said I wasn't a saint.

Smoking salvia in a Dunhill might be the funniest thing I've read on here.

 

[telescopes]

Smoking salvia in a Dunhill might be the funniest thing I've read on here.

Ha, ha. Well, when I am smoking a Dunhill and I am reading the ramblings of a certain Ozark Solicitor who is smoking a beat up drug store pipe and rambling about the joys of Algerian Briar, I sometimes clean the wax out of my ears with the flat ended blade of my pipe tamper - a nervous habit that comes about when I hear a bunch of nonsense, LOL.

 

[OzPiper]

Ha, ha. Well, when I am smoking a Dunhill and I am reading the ramblings of a certain Ozark Solicitor who is smoking a beat up drug store pipe and rambling about the joys of Algerian Briar, I sometimes clean the wax out of my ears with the flat ended blade of my pipe tamper - a nervous habit that comes about when I hear a bunch of nonsense, LOL.

You must have the cleanest ears ever

 

[Waning Embers]

Smoking salvia in a Dunhill might be the funniest thing I've read on here.

Dunhills are less expensive than many of the luxury custom glass pipes so it makes sense.

 

[Hillcrest]

I know I shouldn't confess the sins of others, but this one haunts me....

I once had a smoke with an esteemed older vicar in Nairobi, Kenya -- he got out his pipe and I got out mine and he offered me a pouch of aromatic tobacco. It was dim. I couldn't see well. I dipped in, and filled my pipe. We shared robust conversation and I finished my pipe with little attention to it. His went out early.

Then...


... Sorry, this is really hard for me to say... Give me a minute.


ok...

Then, he opened up the pouch... and dumped the ashes and unsmoked tobacco and cleaned the dottle with his pipe tool... back into the pouch.


I have not talked to my therapist about this. You are the first people I have ever told.

Wickedness or ignorance? The Lord is judge. May he show mercy.

The fictional character Sherlock Holmes was known to save his dottle in a silken purse. In one of the Jeremy Brett episodes he offers Watson some tobacco who looks at with disgust and pulls out his own pouch ! I suspect that was put in tease pipe smokers.

 

[telescopes]

Smoking a pipe in a precarious position or place has always been a poor habit of mine. Military mounts are want to disconnect always at the wrong time. Sometimes, I inadvertently simple let go of a pipe and it falls.

Once in San Diego at the very resort where my photo by my name is, I dropped my Nording F Moss from the second floor and onto the concrete sidewalk below. From prior experience, I expected a total loss. The Nording, however, was indestructible and suffered only a minor scratch along a part of the plateaux - something easily covered up.

I also have to be extra careful where I leave a pipe. It is upsetting to misplace a pipe and then tear the house apart and not find it - only to find it years later in a coat pocket.

 

[huntertrw]

Father of the flame, forgive them for they have sinned!

 

[bluegrassbrian]

Dunhills are less expensive than many of the luxury custom glass pipes so it makes sense.

My take has less to do with the perceived distinction of the Dunhill brand, more to do with the choice of a wooden pipe for that application.
Also, in my estimation, a pipe smoker with the means and interest to own a Dunhill pipe wouldn't fall in to the category of "average salvia smoker".

Granted, I've tried salvia before.. but that was a good while before I ever considered smoking tobacco pipes. It never did anything for me personally, so I've always been a bit dubious about it.

 

[anotherbob]

I ain't no saint. I've done some things - some bad things. And while I can only pray fervently that I will be forgiven for the choices I freely made, there are some things, some wicked things, that just don't make sense.

I've abused a few of my pipes. Some were very good pipes that deserved better treatment than I gave them. Some were on the wrong end of my carelessness.

As a substitute teacher when I was 22 years old, I would take my pipes to the shop room and buff them on the high speed buffers. I marred a good many pipes. Others, I would tap the bowl on the side of the car as I cruised down the road only to see them slip out of my hand and onto the road where they quickly disintegrated into a mess of splinters. A few others were smoked in gale force winds and all suffered serious burnouts in the bowl. My calabash went uncleaned for nearly 10 years.

These were all good pipes and they deserved better.

I could go on. But I won't

The worst was taking my prized Dunhill and filling the bowl with Salvia Divinorum and scorching the rim with a blow torch lighter. Not once, but quite a few times. Yes, I learned more about the universe in five minutes time than a doctoral course in quantum mechanics could teach me in 20 years. Still, it took forever to restore that pipe and get rid of some fairly strong ghosting.

I said I wasn't a saint.

I am surprised you've used Salvia Divinorum. It's an interesting plant on many levels. And one of the reasons is it can be educational but it's not really very recreational. And one of the most interesting things about it is that it triggers consistently out of body experiences and also ruins briar pipes. Both effects should be studies so that we can have a better understanding of both.
I don't always clean my pipes as much as a I should. Does that count?
Oh and frankly I kind of want to buy a cheap pipe that no one wants so I can watch its splintery high way death. Sounds kind of cool in a Beavis and Buttheadway.

 

[telescopes]

I am surprised you've used Salvia Divinorum. It's an interesting plant on many levels. And one of the reasons is it can be educational but it's not really very recreational. And one of the most interesting things about it is that it triggers consistently out of body experiences and also ruins briar pipes. Both effects should be studies so that we can have a better understanding of both.
I don't always clean my pipes as much as a I should. Does that count?
Oh and frankly I kind of want to buy a cheap pipe that no one wants so I can watch its splintery high way death. Sounds kind of cool in a Beavis and Buttheadway.

As you said, Salvia is not recreational.

 

[anotherbob]

As you said, Salvia is not recreational.

it's certainly not.

 

[infectedpsyche]

Here I thought I was to be shunned for dropping an EWA from my mouth while cleaning the gutters. It hit the concrete, took some dings and has kept on but has its scars.

 

[pinem]

Historically speaking, artificially instigating soul out of body experiences, can open a vacuum in one's host body that can be filled by nefarious spirits, if they are in the neighborhood and notice the vacancy. While the perspective shift, and ergo resulting paradigm shift, can be therapeutic, its still a metaphysical roll of the dice. Or so I've heard.

 

[BurleyVonPuffington]

I always have one cob that I don't really care about and is designated as the pipe to be abused. I'll smoke anything in it, smoke it in the wind and rain, travel with it, char the crap out of it, and so on. Two or three now have suffered grisly fates. It's kind of entertaining to see just how much of a beating they can handle before giving up the ghost. The rest of my pipes are treated well, but not babied.

I had (past tense) such a cob, but a smoke in a windy thunderstorm did this…

 

[BurleyVonPuffington]

Smoking a pipe in a precarious position or place has always been a poor habit of mine. Military mounts are want to disconnect always at the wrong time. Sometimes, I inadvertently simple let go of a pipe and it falls.

Once in San Diego at the very resort where my photo by my name is, I dropped my Nording F Moss from the second floor and onto the concrete sidewalk below. From prior experience, I expected a total loss. The Nording, however, was indestructible and suffered only a minor scratch along a part of the plateaux - something easily covered up.

I also have to be extra careful where I leave a pipe. It is upsetting to misplace a pipe and then tear the house apart and not find it - only to find it years later in a coat pocket.

Many here have far more knowledge and experience than me, but if someone asks me the most durable, near bulletproof pipe to get, I say a Nording without hesitation, and there’s no close second. Amazingly tough pipes.